PPN Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Hey guys, I was just going through some of the rep sites, and I noticed that some of the models allow you to choose either the 2836 or 2824 movement. I'm still relatively new to all this, and I was wondering if someone could tell me the main differences between the two. Is any particular one "better" than the other, and which is typically more expensive? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 2824 has no day wheel and this makes it slightly thinner. They're the same quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPN Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 2824 has no day wheel and this makes it slightly thinner. They're the same quality. Ah, thanks for the quick reply. So then why would the 2836 be an option for models like the PO or 3227 Ingeniueur when there is obviously no date function? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 It makes no sense, especially when you consider both the genuine watches you mentioned have ETA 2892s in them. The 2824 it closer to the 2892 in thickness. Who can ever fathom the vagaries of the replica makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I think it comes down to avaialabilty, also it makes sence for the chinese to buy or copy the 2836 as it can be used in more watches, ie if you want a day date fit the day wheel if you dont want the day dont fit the wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPN Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 It makes no sense, especially when you consider both the genuine watches you mentioned have ETA 2892s in them. The 2824 it closer to the 2892 in thickness. Who can ever fathom the vagaries of the replica makers. So if one were to buy an Ingenieur with the 2836 movement, would that cause any problems or affect the thickness of the watch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drury Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 So if one were to buy an Ingenieur with the 2836 movement, would that cause any problems or affect the thickness of the watch? nope, the same case should be used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPN Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 nope, the same case should be used Weight then? (sorry for the newbie questions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Weight then? (sorry for the newbie questions) Not really. There's nothing wrong with a 2836 in a watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I thought the rep users mainly use the 2836 because it comes standard with a one size taller canon pinion and 4th wheel because of the day wheel mechanism. I've never actually confirmed this though, so maybe one of the experts will fill us in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPN Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I think it comes down to avaialabilty, also it makes sence for the chinese to buy or copy the 2836 as it can be used in more watches, ie if you want a day date fit the day wheel if you dont want the day dont fit the wheel I think that would make sense, but only if the reliability and quality/accuracy of the 2836 and 2824 were comparable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 But they are comparable what makes you say they are not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I think that would make sense, but only if the reliability and quality/accuracy of the 2836 and 2824 were comparable. They are identical from the neck down, so yeah, they're 'comparable'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPN Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 But they are comparable what makes you say they are not? Well I really don't know, so it was more of a question than anything else. Are they pretty much the same movement - just that the 2836 has an extra wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPN Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 They are identical from the neck down, so yeah, they're 'comparable'. Gotcha, thanks. Also, was there any special meaning to the "-2" at the end of the movement numbers? Does it imply that there were "-1" versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drury Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Gotcha, thanks. Also, was there any special meaning to the "-2" at the end of the movement numbers? Does it imply that there were "-1" versions? There you go: 2836-1 2836-2 2824-1 2824-2 They are quality wise as good as each other. That should answer the questions, Cheers, Tim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 (edited) A 2836 has also longer cannon pinions for the hands, because of the day date option. That makes it easier to fit Dial and hands. They are shorter on a 2824. Edited August 22, 2011 by Tribal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPN Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 There you go: 2836-1 2836-2 2824-1 2824-2 They are quality wise as good as each other. That should answer the questions, Cheers, Tim Awesome, thanks Tim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPN Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 A 2836 has also longer cannon pinions for the hands, because of the day date option. That makes it easier to fit Dial and hands. They are shorter on a 2824. Right...resulting in the thicker movement. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 No the thicker movement comes from the day wheel complication. Pinion height is not taken into consideration when a movement is measured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPN Posted August 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 No the thicker movement comes from the day wheel complication. Pinion height is not taken into consideration when a movement is measured Right, thanks Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 The stem height is also different. If you use a 2836 in a case designed for a 2824 (and vice-versa)the stem will bind in the tube... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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