Tiyal Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 My movement has been fast by 30 seconds a day. Not satisfied i popped the case and started moving whatever I could find that would move , + - and the bar thats south of the +/- now I'm twenty minutes slow. . Ive searched to no avail on the proper technique, the best write up on regulating / regulation is by Gioarmani (http://www.rwg.cc/to...ps-timing-beat/) but its old and the photos are missing. Being completely illiterate, photos would be great! So far i believe Ive changed the stroke , which was not my intention so now what? Does anyone have good photos are where and what my normal position should be? And where do I go from here?? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Here is a good link, not the same movement but the same principal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 its more than likely out of beat now, i dont think you can regulate it back into beat without the use of a machine to calculate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Yes you played with the "fat arm" and thats a big NO NO! Do it yourself could take some patience and long time to get it back on track! Maybe you have a watchsmith you could give it to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiyal Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Id really like to do it my self, Ive got it going the other direction now, its gaining a minute an hour or so. is there a central point for the fat arm?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Yes there is but there is no engraving on the movement that shows that. Tell you what sync the watch with your computer time, that should be easy to regulate it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiyal Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 I got lucky and found a photo of the movement prior to my gorilla hands having a free for all in my ETA. Using my computer, I'm timing the reset movement. Looks like Ive picked up 8sec in twenty minutes . Here's the old photo showing where things approximately are. Now what? Thanks for the guidance so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Put the "fat arm" back where it was and only adjust the other and see if you have any luck. The "fat arm" adjusts the beat error and only a fraction of a degree will make a huge difference so to get it right will almost certainly require a timer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacher62 Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Put the "fat arm" back where it was and only adjust the other and see if you have any luck. The "fat arm" adjusts the beat error and only a fraction of a degree will make a huge difference so to get it right will almost certainly require a timer... +1 You can't set the beat accurately any other way, without the watch being partially torn down. Also, for future reference, you just movement the regulator arm like a tenth of a millimeter at a time. A little goes a long way. An almost imperceptible movement can change the watch 5 secs/hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiyal Posted September 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 The timing is better but fast now. The regulator is what I don't touch (and hope that I have returned to its normal position) Or in this case is the spring stud what I monkeyed with and I adjust with the regulator arm? Thanks I'm going to the beach!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 You monkeyed with the spring stud. The regulator is the one that's mostly hidden and the one that you should be moving. Be happy if you get it close to accurate. I've never gotten a 2846 movement to be very accurate even with regulating it for days. A couple of minutes a week is pretty good from what I've seen. Interesting that I just took a look at my 2846 movement that was fully serviced and the spring stud and the regulator look to be in exactly the same position as in this earlier picture you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 I have found that the spring stud is usually almost fully CCW (maybe 5 degrees from) from the end of travel when properly adjusted. But, a BCH either way from perfect will be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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