cdigi Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Can anyone please help point me into the right direction. I know there were several projects / attempts at this but I am unsure of any outcome. If anyone knows where I can find one, please let me know. I hate to see the watch sitting unused
PeteM Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Certainly not heard of any progress mate, indeed the one likely one fell to the wayside... but given the gen construction method I would think its a forlorn hope But thats no reason to have it sitting in the box mate....
cdigi Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Posted October 13, 2011 Certainly not heard of any progress mate, indeed the one likely one fell to the wayside... but given the gen construction method I would think its a forlorn hope But thats no reason to have it sitting in the box mate.... I guess I can wear it with a shattered crystal and start a new trend!
cdigi Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Posted October 13, 2011 I found this but I am not sure if it will work. I would need to research further. Does anyone have any guesses? http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-CRYSTAL-PANERAI-212-FLYBACK-1950-PAM-212-/310304825568?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483f9be0e0
PeteM Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 As I recall they been tried mate... but the shape is wrong a least the mineral you have is better in terms of on your wrist... If you go back over the crystal run threads you will find discussions on these ones mate
frankt Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Have you considered replacing it with a plexi crystal..??....My 217 shattered out, and I found a decent plexi at OFrei for $4.00!!...Look in their on line catalog for hi dome pocket watch stuff... It won't be perfect, but the 212's are a long way from perfect anyhow....
z3k0 Posted October 14, 2011 Report Posted October 14, 2011 I used to buy crystals (mineral) for 212/253 from MlitaryTime, I just asked for crystal for their MM111 model - link It was quite cheap (~US$20). I never used it with latest 212/253 watches (H-factory), but it worked for me with few previous models. regards
cdigi Posted October 14, 2011 Author Report Posted October 14, 2011 Thanks for the advice gents. My local watch guy said he could find something close if I bring him the watch + pics of gen. Thanks for sending the military time link, never saw that one before. I will keep everyone posted.
maxman Posted October 14, 2011 Report Posted October 14, 2011 These guys might be worth a try http://www.crystalfit.com/faqs.html although when it comes to sapphire crystals for are 212/253....I wont hold my breath. Good luck with your watch guy...as you said....keep us posted. Mike
cdigi Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Posted October 17, 2011 These guys might be worth a try http://www.crystalfit.com/faqs.html although when it comes to sapphire crystals for are 212/253....I wont hold my breath. Good luck with your watch guy...as you said....keep us posted. Mike thanks Mike!
israg Posted October 18, 2011 Report Posted October 18, 2011 Taka over at rwi is making sapphire crystals with colorless AR. They should be very good but they will only fit the H-factory versions of the 212s. Www.2geek.net
maxman Posted October 20, 2011 Report Posted October 20, 2011 Taka over at rwi is making sapphire crystals with colorless AR. They should be very good but they will only fit the H-factory versions of the 212s. Www.2geek.net Good news for the H-factory guys..thanks for the info. Mike
plaifender Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 Anyone know if these taka crystals have come out yet??
frankt Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 I found this but I am not sure if it will work. I would need to research further. Does anyone have any guesses? http://www.ebay.com/...=item483f9be0e0 I bought a whole fully functioning 212 for a little more than 1/2 the price of that crystal!!.....sheesh!! granted, it's the "old" model with the wrong sec markers, and the lo-beat 7750, but it's in almost mint condition....with an intact crystal!!..;-)
PeteM Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 Taka crystal are not on his website....yet... I still wouldnt pin my hopes on these as the OEM construction is very difficult to reproduce without expense.... Not only the corundum but the 2 piece construction... hence why Bart's never got any further ...
plaifender Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 Taka crystal are not on his website....yet... I still wouldnt pin my hopes on these as the OEM construction is very difficult to reproduce without expense.... Not only the corundum but the 2 piece construction... hence why Bart's never got any further ... Pete.. the crystal is two pieces!?? i recall you having difficulty removing the crystal on this new version.. did you ever get it off?
PeteM Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 Hi mate Sorry for confusion... I was referring to the construction method used by OP (I missed out a word)- Here is Extract from Barts original thread Manufacturing the Dome Crystals for PAM 212 and the larger PAM 127 Okay fellas, I thought I would pass along the information I have learned on the latest 1:1 crystal project. Below are the steps that Panerai's sub contractor uses to make one of their crystals. The biggest hurdle, I am told, is the set labeled number 5 above. If the second mold is not lined up perfectly, the whole crystal is considered a 'reject' and is a waste of product. In mass manufacturing like this, a loss of over 5% can be disastrous to the bottom line. This is why (I believe), this project has never been completed to anyway near 1:1 proportions with genuine sapphire. ***** This is how a mineral crystal is made: Obviously, the mineral Crystals are easier and far cheaper. But they will break easier.
plaifender Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 @Pete- AHH! ok.. yeah, i remember that post very well. Thought you were talking about 2 piece crystal construction. Were you ever able to get the crystal off you 253 or 286??
PeteM Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 I didnt but someone else did.....there was an inner rehaut/ slip ring that held it in place as it didnt fit the case properly without it.. And I think possibly it was a concious effort to reduce the risk of damage to the crystal as we have seen historically with these...
cloner4 Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 correct, that is the reason the 127/217 crystals didnt get built as well
frankt Posted November 20, 2011 Report Posted November 20, 2011 Here's one... http://www.rwg.cc/topic/139815-fs-pam212-sapphire-crystal/
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