wat44 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 For a long time, I had wanted a fantasy GMT II in pepsi ceramic everyone told me I would be waiting for a long time... so I was quite surprised and happy when they came out. I bought one from Replicamake. There is a bit of a story to this, which I wont bore you all with right now... Anyway, the movement it came supplied with (Offshore might be able to chime in here and tell you what it might be) was broken on arrival. Lay sent out a replacement mvt, but alas it was not a straight swap over - ie the wrong movement. I have a very hard working man on the job trying to get this movement, but for many months now and no success The advice I am after is this: should I buy a new mvt with new hands to fit? if so, what should I buy? from where? and how much (just ballpark) would I be up for? any help appreciated!!! thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Should I buy ETA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 If the replacement movement (sent by the original seller) is wrong, I would send the whole thing back for refund. Then, get 1 of the ETA-powered versions--either correct hand stack (chs) or incorrect hand stack (ichs)--from an RWG listed seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 I think Im left with the watch - Im after the best way for me to get this watch fixed. the hand stack being correct does not worry me. any ideas? Id be happy to send this to a modder if this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-Swiss-ETA-2836-2-Movement-DAY-GMT-function-/220867904343 will this work? this is the watch: http://www.1-pc8838.com/rlgs01031-anni-ssb...and-p-9570.html I assume the hands on the watch wont fit the ETA movement - am I right? and where could I buy new hand set please? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 I have a GMT IIc dial and hands for sale in the parts area. I can also do the install for you if you need help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Ok from the info you are giving us, you have a GMT IIc with an Asian ETA clone movement and GMT complication. You are asking if a gen Swiss 2836-2 with GMT complication off of eBay will work in your watch. I can not be certain that the asian GMT complication uses compatible hour/min/gmt wheels as the Swiss version .. thus I do not know if the hands will fit. A good watchsmith can increase/decrease the hole size in your hands to fix this, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 The genuine Swiss ETA 2836-2 movement is a day-date function. There is no genuine Swiss ETA 2836-2 with the GMT function. ETA never made one. The best it could be is a genuine Swiss ETA 2836-2 that has been modified to have a GMT function by eliminating the day wheel and adapting the GMT function into that mechanism. All the ETA 28XX movements and the Asian 2836 take the same size hands, 90/150/25. The Asian GMT modified 4th hand is 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 ok - thank you!!! I should buy the swiss modified one http://www.helenarou.com/swiss-eta-28362-movement-with-gmt-function-da28362300.html the only hand that wont work is the GMT which is currently asian 20 but needs to be 25 - is this correct? - pack the watch, and new mvt and send to a modder to mod the GMT hand and put it all back together did I miss anything? cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 "Hand sizes are 90/150/25/216" - from that site - does this mean the GMT hand needs to go from 20 to 216? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 I have a GMT IIc dial and hands for sale in the parts area. I can also do the install for you if you need help. i had a look - but i think these hands are not for the pepsi? ie yours is green and mine is red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 OK, so I didn't read your original post that carefully. Let me try to help. You bought a GMT IIc with a fantasy "pepsi" red/blue bezel insert. I've seen these a few times. If I remember correctly, they have a dial with red GMT MASTER text on them and a red 4th hand as well, right? Which movement did it originally come with? What parts of that movement do you still have? If you still have the GMT wheel from the movement and the additional gear on the calendar mechanism, you can simply convert any ETA 2836 (or clone) into a GMT movement. It may take tweaking of the minute and hour wheels, but I've had a lot of success making pretty much any ETA (Swiss or clone) work with GMT parts. If you still have any of the original or replacement hands, you probably only need a movement. In fact if you still have any of the original movement parts (like if you have an entire movement, even if it's broken) you're probably fine. I also have red GMT hands in the parts box if you need one, or you could paint a green one. Honestly, the most helpful thing you could do is to post a pic of all of the stuff that you have now. With that it'll be much easier to figure out what you should do next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 Offshore has the watch (I think) - Ill point him to this thread thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 PM sent watt. O/S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 thanks OS the answer is "dunno" I asked the helen rou site people and their GMT hand is green also I guess the best thing is just to bore out the existing GMT hand to a bigger diameter - I need to speak to some modders after I collect the bits I need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted November 4, 2011 Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 You can't "bore out" a hand. You can broach it a tiny bit, or you can paint a green hand, or you can find a GMT 4th wheel that fits your existing hand (I have several in the parts box), or you can drill out the hole of a green hand and glue your red hand over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2011 THIS is why I need a modder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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