EMM Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Interesting thing I got going here. A few months ago I picked up this really nice 6204 rep: Cool modded 21j, nice case shape, good brass showing on the bezel teeth, keeps terrible time like a mistreated gen . But the insert (as you can see) is just brutal. Looks like a cheap rep insert with a SubC pearl surround filled with yellow clay. What's the best insert for this model? Yuki's? Not sure what would be correct. Also not sure how to get this one off. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Once you remove the bezel (you should be able to pry it off with a butter knife), you should be able to pop the insert out from the rear with your thumbs. Unless it was cemented-in, which could be a problem. The interesting thing is the gen rotor you have there. In spite of the case & dial being obviously wrong (not gens), at 1st glance, seeing that rotor in there, it almost fooled me. Never saw 1 of those tacked onto a 21j movement before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 That shocked me also freddy, and the lollypop seconds hand where is this rep from?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 This watch looks alot like one someone showed a few months ago on RG. He got it from a relative that got it in VN. I love the rotor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMM Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 That's the one. The movement looks better than it works. But hey, it's a 60 yo watch, so that's not all that hard to pass. I managed to get the bezel insert off. There's a fairly deep channel in the bezel and it was literally filled with epoxy. Now (obviously) the old insert is torn up. So what's the best replacement for the insert? The standard 5513/1680? Or the old TOG-style without hashes? Where do I get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donerix 2.0 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 It should have one without hash marks. classicwatchparts.com has one, but it's not exactly cheap: http://www.classicwatchparts.com/catpart/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=34_56&products_id=74 Maybe ask Silix if they sell you one separate... Nice piece.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Most of the 6204s I've seen have no hash mark inserts. Wholesale has them, but not cheap either http://www.ebay.com/...=item483f9c19a3 Maybe one of the cartel dealers would sell you one, they have them on the 6205 and 5510 http://www.1-pc8838....836-p-9099.html Aging the pearl makes all the difference in the look. I did the epoxy drop and couldn't believe the change. I added the 6mm Brevet '+' crown from RafflesTime and just put an ETA 2846 in it. I really love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 That's the one. The movement looks better than it works. But hey, it's a 60 yo watch, so that's not all that hard to pass. I managed to get the bezel insert off. There's a fairly deep channel in the bezel and it was literally filled with epoxy. Now (obviously) the old insert is torn up. So what's the best replacement for the insert? The standard 5513/1680? Or the old TOG-style without hashes? Where do I get one? He pm'd me before he put it up for sale, almost bought it. It's a cool watch! I agree with the silex idea, hope they can help you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Here is my gen (non-chronometer rated) A.260 for comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMM Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Thanks for all the compliments and ideas. I may go with the WSO one - but the pearl looks super new and looks like it's missing lume. What do I do there? JoeyB, what's the "epoxy drop" method of aging a pearl? I'm familiar with the epoxy drop method for making a pearl on a newer Sub or DSSD, but not using epoxy to age it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 After digging out the old pearl I put a touch of lume, then the drop of epoxy. With clear epoxy tint the lume, or as I did on the 6204, use the amber color epoxy as is. It came out great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMM Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 So where can I source a tiny bit of mostly-dead yellow lume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donerix 2.0 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Check on ebay, Sometimes they have old pearls for sale. Like this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 To my knowledge the lume glow is greenish, not yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 There's an ebay seller in china that sells aged pearls. I don't remember his name but I bought several like these awhile back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 and look like this installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donerix 2.0 Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Those are the same I bought too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMM Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 WSO insert came - it is WAY too big around to fit on the outside edge. How do I fix that? Just sand it? How do you keep it round? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Do you mean by WSO the fast shipping Texas guy? Go to Classic watch parts http://www.classicwatchparts.com/catpart/catalog/index.php?cPath=34_56&osCsid=dr6t3rdf82trcntr3uukrrppu2 I think you will find better and more correct inserts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMM Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Do you mean by WSO the fast shipping Texas guy? Go to Classic watch parts http://www.classicwa...rcntr3uukrrppu2 I think you will find better and more correct inserts. Yes, WSO from Sugarland. As noted by JoeyB above. Anyway, I ended up shaving the insert with an XActo over and over. Took a ton off of it - maybe 2mm all around. Snapped it around the pearl in the process. But I just put it on and am letting the glue dry (this bezel will not hold an insert with mere tension, and the snap near the pearl made that impossible anyway). We'll see. If not, I'll consider the crazy expensive one from Classic Watch Parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMM Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Looks OK for now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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