ArkoN Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I think these parts are gen, pictures are a little bit small. I did get these parts for 145 swiss francs(158$ US) at a swiss auction site like ebay. What do you guys think? I will use these parts for my TC Sub :-) I was just looking for an bezel insert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 insert looks good, albeit the old style 16610 insert, which i wouldnt use on an M or V serial 16610 IMO. crown looks good. rest cant really tell. crown and insert alone are worth the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkoN Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 thanks for the information. I will have a look at it and maybe sell it to fellow rwg members if I dont need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiderdaus Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 the insert is a 16800 which is not supposed to be on a 16610T case. The springbars are for lugholes case, you cannot use them on a 16610T case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkoN Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 @Eiderdaus why do you think the insert is for the 16800 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 @Eiderdaus why do you think the insert is for the 16800 ? square 4. M serial and V serial engraved rehaut have triangle 4, which is why i said i wouldnt use it on those serial 16610 subs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkoN Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 thanks for this lesson :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 The Insert may incorrect for that series, but who would notice that if everybody always assume the watch is fake anyways. I have one of those on my TC and I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 The Insert may incorrect for that series, but who would notice that if everybody always assume the watch is fake anyways. I have one of those on my TC and I love it. well maybe thats why the assume its fake i think the OP would notice...now. as well as the aficionados. if youre going big, might as well strive for accuracy when youre investing this amount of cash but thats just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiderdaus Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 well maybe thats why the assume its fake i think the OP would notice...now. as well as the aficionados. if youre going big, might as well strive for accuracy when youre investing this amount of cash but thats just me. +1 and it´s not all about what others think, as soon as I know a detail it bugs me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkoN Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) I own a gen 16610 V Series. I could destroy the insert, add it to my gen. And send it to Rolex to get a new one? :-) Ohhhh no wait, better. I just swap the insert out of my gen one and say I lost it, would that work? Or I just sell it and buy the newer one. Edited April 11, 2012 by ArkoN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 well maybe thats why the assume its fake i think the OP would notice...now. as well as the aficionados. if youre going big, might as well strive for accuracy when youre investing this amount of cash but thats just me. whatever, these people don't even know about watches, I am talking about the normal people not freaks like us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkoN Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I own a gen 16610 V Series. I could destroy the insert, add it to my gen. And send it to Rolex to get a new one? :-) Ohhhh no wait, better. I just swap the insert out of my gen one and say I lost it, would that work? Or I just sell it and buy the newer one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 sounds like a plan. rolex might charge you more since you dont have a part to trade in though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_urabus Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Wow, I just had a similar conversation with ubi; I have a mark I insert (flat 4) and mark II everything for my etaSwiss build. The mark I had no lug holes so the insert could be correct for a 16610T case, but the mark I dial is different than the mark II dial so anyone than knows anything about the 16610 would instantly know my watch is in fact a terrible fake and should be thrown away with the rubbish! Haha that's funny stuff right there!! I personally don't give a rats behind that my insert is mark I and my dial, hands, crown, clasp and mid links are mark II. It would be like telling your hot girlfriend you don't like her because her left nip is smaller than her right... I personally like the flat 4 insert better than the triangle. It's why I used one. If someone has a problem with it, oh well! Rant over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkoN Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Yes, but we want to have everything just as good as possible :-) If you wanna trade youre insert with mine, pm me :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Wow, I just had a similar conversation with ubi; I have a mark I insert (flat 4) and mark II everything for my etaSwiss build. The mark I had no lug holes so the insert could be correct for a 16610T case, but the mark I dial is different than the mark II dial so anyone than knows anything about the 16610 would instantly know my watch is in fact a terrible fake and should be thrown away with the rubbish! Haha that's funny stuff right there!! I personally don't give a rats behind that my insert is mark I and my dial, hands, crown, clasp and mid links are mark II. It would be like telling your hot girlfriend you don't like her because her left nip is smaller than her right... I personally like the flat 4 insert better than the triangle. It's why I used one. If someone has a problem with it, oh well! Rant over... would it still not bother you to have an open 6 and 9 16800 datewheel to match your 16800 insert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_urabus Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 I have liked the flat 4 since the lv mark I. Some thing about it makes me smile. Maybe some say I'll source a new one, but now a days I need all the smiles I can't find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiderdaus Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Wow, I just had a similar conversation with ubi; I have a mark I insert (flat 4) and mark II everything for my etaSwiss build. The mark I had no lug holes so the insert could be correct for a 16610T case, but the mark I dial is different than the mark II dial so anyone than knows anything about the 16610 would instantly know my watch is in fact a terrible fake and should be thrown away with the rubbish! Haha that's funny stuff right there!! I personally don't give a rats behind that my insert is mark I and my dial, hands, crown, clasp and mid links are mark II. It would be like telling your hot girlfriend you don't like her because her left nip is smaller than her right... I personally like the flat 4 insert better than the triangle. It's why I used one. If someone has a problem with it, oh well! Rant over... The LV mark I is the only 16610T with flat 4 afaik. 16610 cases for 16610LN with flat 4 have lugholes. If you do not agree I would be happy if you could post a pic where you have seen a 16610T with flat 4 and SL dial which is not a LV. Then I would be convinced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 The flat 4 insert went out around 2002-3- here's a P serial w/ lugholes, flat 4 insert, 'Swiss Made' dial and SEL bracelet http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-Submariner-Stainless-Steel-Black-Face-BOX-PAPERS-16610-LNIB-/140737554144?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item20c49ca6e0 Next up is a Y serial from 2003- still has lugholes, triangle 4 insert and 'Swiss Made' dial, SEL bracelet http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Submariner-16610-Steel-2003-Y-WOW-/110856654188?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item19cf924d6c I agree that a flat 4 insert is not correct for a 16610T case. But what if an AD changed out a damaged insert w/ a NOS flat 4 insert- it's still 100% gen Rolex! Sometimes we worry about this stuff too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkoN Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 I get the parts tomorrow and will post some pics. And I wait for TC to response to my mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkoN Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 So I got the parts today. The pearl has a little "crack" in it. At reallife its hard to detect, you need a lupe or a macro photo shot or even look very close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkoN Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 what do you think, are these parts gen? I can only tell about the bezel that seems gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w.genzo Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Crown looks gen even if some inside pics could help.. and about the crystal it is impossible to say from the pics. The only thing I can say is that the gen gasket only is 2.7mm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkoN Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 thanks for youre advice, the seller seems good. But he could told me about the little cracks at the pearl. I have some more pics of the crown. What kind of pictures do I have to make to verify the crystal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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