Guest watch4king Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 I'm trying to decide between a TC or a BK sub. Both look awesome but since I have never seen one in person it's hard to decide. What would you guys recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 tc sub hands down.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6now Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Right now, it's TC. A new SEL is coming too so it just keeps getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 1.)new sel with bracelet and gen looking crown on the clasp...in the works 2.) new date wheel overlay true to gen with raised gloss print and white background.....in the works 3.) sapphire domed superlumed pearl true to gen...in the works Get a BIGCROWN gen spec with soft edges sapphire crystal w AR coating under the cyclops and you will have the best sub in town. Join THE TC SUB CLUB! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ueno Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 TC... it's just great and getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) I cannot speak of what the future may bring however I know facts... I have been collecting reps actively over 2 years coming from the gen world on TZ and have been into reps of HBB and now Rolexes, I will have to say that to this day my daily watch is the one and only out of the box perfect TW Black & LV subs. You see Bert is your only option if you want the next best thing after the geNuine Rolexes. Regarding the TC hype all i have to say with full confidence is the following: TC sub is a wm9 sub. It's great! but it's not clearly a winner over the TW sub because of the shorter bezel teeth, poor pearl, so-so SELs, distorted cyclop with over magnification. If indeed there will be some "Improvements" we will have to wait and see the end results before we say anything so time will tell. As of this day Bert is THE one to beat Edited May 28, 2012 by 1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deokhoon jun Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Bk win in dial comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapsMoney Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 im on the fence of buying a fully franken sub.. what would be my bes tbet? TC or BK ? If i do gen inserts, dial, etc.. what would be my best bet? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 there are big changes coming with the TC...out of the box it is the best. With new improved upgrades that will be offered, absolutely nothing will touch it other than gen....The TC is WM9 V4, but TC has pushed the nvelope to make it the best. I recently tested a TC case under pressure and got it to 10 ATM easily.I would not be surprised if it rivals gen to 300m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedman Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 When will the changes to the TC come then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) Remember also that the Noob factory is supposed to be releasing a whole range of new Rolex sports models in the future....When in the future I do not know but if they are as good as the current Panerai range we will be in for a treat. Edited May 28, 2012 by bwhitesox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smqsub Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 I'm trying to decide between a TC or a BK sub. Both look awesome but since I have never seen one in person it's hard to decide. What would you guys recommend? In the same position. Bk is tried and true. But I'd really like the gen like insert and bezel assembly. Suppose I'll hold out for the Tc improvements Sent from TK-421's comms using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasf2002 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 there are big changes coming with the TC...out of the box it is the best. With new improved upgrades that will be offered, absolutely nothing will touch it other than gen....The TC is WM9 V4, but TC has pushed the nvelope to make it the best. I recently tested a TC case under pressure and got it to 10 ATM easily.I would not be surprised if it rivals gen to 300m. Hymmm - actually if you want to be correct then "out of the box" would more than likely be BK due to better dial, slightly better SEL, better insert and white date wheel. TC has better crown height, cannon pin (hand height from dial) and strap has hollow mid links but that's an easy fix. Crystal is really 6 and half a dozen. The fix's mentioned that TC is working on (as i understand) are SEL, date wheel and pearl and when these are done I have no doubt that these will make a big difference. The water resistant thing is [censored] as they are both capable of being very good in this area - more to do with the care that goes into construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Jasf2002: I guess after all we geeks have more options to choose from, a I mentioned it above let's wait and see what the end product will be. As we speak BK remains the one to beat especially since TC sub is not clearly a winner over the TW sub because of the shorter bezel teeth, poor pearl, so-so SELs, distorted cyclop with over magnification...etc. Cannot wait for round 2 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 @1234 all your concerns are currently being addressed.I believe we will all like what we see with the TC V5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draven451 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 @1234 all your concerns are currently being addressed.I believe we will all like what we see with the TC V5. Do you know when V5 will be coming out? Sent from my iPhone 4s using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucker Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 My BK TW sub is spot on perfect. The most glaring flaw of the TC sub is that horrific pearl but a Clark or genuine insert addresses that issue. If you go the TC route buy it without the insert. TC has a quite a few cheerleaders and every time i see "join the TC SUB CLUB" I have to laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 haha..lol! Come on everyone...join THE TC SUB CLUB!!! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 In the same position. Bk is tried and true. But I'd really like the gen like insert and bezel assembly. Suppose I'll hold out for the Tc improvements Sent from TK-421's comms using Tapatalk Just ask Bk to put a gen insert in, pretty sure he can do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blbl Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Just ask Bk to put a gen insert in, pretty sure he can do that +1 to what woof said. I had BK install a gen insert on his 16610 and it looks perrrfect! On top of that, BK's a real nice guy to deal with. You won't go wrong with his knowledge and experience on Rolex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 I will wait until the so called TC V5 is released before commenting...it looks promising but I cannot speak yet What I do know is that Bert is an amazing person to deal with and my BK rollies get daily comments and are not modded and have been running like a geuine for months, fully WR...etc. Some fellow geeks start modding with gen parts, I am extremely happy with the out of the box version from Bert. Having said that should you be really anal you could always ask BK for a geuine: Crown, tube, insert...etc and doing so it will be the best watch money can buy after the genuine one. I did see also for those hardcores an offering from BigCrown for AR'ed cyclops! Once you start modding you'll realize there's no limits until your wallet gives in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlocker Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 I've had both and a gen. I could not live with the BK crown position and unloaded it for a TC. I emailed TC on a Wednesday and had my watch on Friday, that was 2 months ago and it's been on my wrist since. TC for me is almost perfect with no noticeable tells. It's a keeper of heirloom quality I plan to pass down to my son proudly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 I am so ready to toss my BK over my shoulders and strap on a TC with gen AR crstal, insert, crown, tube, and get that new SEL bracelet when it comes and slap my gen dial in there and BAM super super sub all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 The TC Sub is the best.Period. There will upgrades that to improve on it. There is a list of upgrades in the works......some of these upgrades are in their final stages and just about ready for production.Other upgrades are still in the drawing stage; but TC is making progress that the factories have negleted. We have the best sub....TC is refining on it. It is so close to gen.......it's scary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) It sounds like fantastic news then...if it will be that good at a cheaper price wow everyone is happy! I cannot wait until it is revealed... Edited May 30, 2012 by 1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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