speedbird100 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 My 1675 build ends I learned a lot from this. I have so many hours invested it isn't even worth counting. I also went way over budget but the results aren't half bad if I do say so myself. Parts List -Cartel 1675 from Trevor -WSO bezel assembly -DG 3804b low-beat GMT movement -Gen spring bars -DG hands -New clasp for the jubilee -Dial reprinted by myself This is the first rep I've ever seen of an all-red GMT hand 1675. For those who aren't familiar, the all-red is a very rare version not seen too often. There are enough out there, however, to make it something worth repping. It's believable I guess you could say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 My 1675 build ends Maybe. These things are like cars, seemingly never ending. I learned a lot from this. I have so many hours invested it isn't even worth counting. I also went way over budget but the results aren't half bad if I do say so myself. The results are very good! And it sounds as though you did it the way most of us do. -Dial reprinted by myself How did you reprint the dial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapman57 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nice work - never seen a red hand GMT before in all of the research I have done, interesting Also, is that the Cartel plexi ? Take a look at Sneeds thread just below - a $5 Clark 116 makes a world of difference! Has anyone tried to fit a Gen 5.3 crown to this case and tube set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nice work - never seen a red hand GMT before in all of the research I have done, interesting Also, is that the Cartel plexi ? Take a look at Sneeds thread just below - a $5 Clark 116 makes a world of difference! Has anyone tried to fit a Gen 5.3 crown to this case and tube set? the tube is too small but if you used something called liquid metal some kind on metal epoxy fill the thread let it dry and re tap it will fit like a glove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbird100 Posted June 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Hey guys, Changing out the crystal isn't something I'm willing to tackle on this since the WSO bezel insert was modified for the one I already had. It'd be nice but way too much work. If you're interested in the All-Red http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=75710 The All-Red was seen from the late 60s to early-mid 1970s. The rarest combination is the all-blue service bezel with the red GMT hand. If you're not familiar with the blue military bezel: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=52069 Lots of interesting GMTs out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapman57 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Thanks for the link to Orchi's post! Enjoy your build..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nice work, but a couple of thoughts - Every red-handed 1675 I have seen had very definitely yellowish lume, including NOS hands (see below) Also, if anyone is interested, here is a NOS red-handed, gen GMT hand for sale from a reliable seller (click pic for link) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Nice work, but a couple of thoughts - Every red-handed 1675 I have seen had very definitely yellowish lume, including NOS hands (see below) Also, if anyone is interested, here is a NOS red-handed, gen GMT hand for sale from a reliable seller (click pic for link) man for 1800 Euros, I rather shoot myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbird100 Posted June 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Never noticed that. The fresh white is kinda rare anyway. It'll stay as-is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbird100 Posted June 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I've reconsidered and changed the lume color on the dial and hands. Looks better I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 It looks fantastic What is the history of the red hand 1675? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Your killin me Speed! Really nice job and nice watch ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbird100 Posted June 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Red hands were seen from the late 60s to about 1973 or 1974. They ARE oem parts but it's unclear if they were all-red from the factory or if they were repainted. Some people believe they are from the factory like that and that is my camp. It's a fact Rolex RSCs all over the world have serviced all-reds without even a hint of an issue. If it wasn't Rolex oem I bet someone, somewhere, would have had an issue. Waaaay too many of them out there to be faked I think. It's like fairies, you have to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaPOFL Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Woah.. didn't know there was a GMT movt from DG.. Sweet project _____________________ Sent using tapatalk and mental power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Red hands were seen from the late 60s to about 1973 or 1974. They ARE oem parts but it's unclear if they were all-red from the factory or if they were repainted. Some people believe they are from the factory like that and that is my camp. It's a fact Rolex RSCs all over the world have serviced all-reds without even a hint of an issue. If it wasn't Rolex oem I bet someone, somewhere, would have had an issue. Waaaay too many of them out there to be faked I think. It's like fairies, you have to believe. Might they have been some kind of alternate, or even limited run part, which was simply discontinued? I just hit up google and saw an interesting Oman military edition, which almost looks like it has an all black Perspex bezel insert (although the fact that the numerals are only 2D points more toward a very curved metal insert ) I'm definitely liking the aesthetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitch Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Great to always learn something new btw; what does DG stand for..? (and were can I find more info on available parts..?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbird100 Posted June 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 The rarest combination is the all-red with the UAE all-blue insert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaPOFL Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Great to always learn something new btw; what does DG stand for..? (and were can I find more info on available parts..?) http://www.ofrei.com/page1119.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 The rarest combination is the all-red with the UAE all-blue insert. I'm sure I've seen pics of the UAE Airforce 1675, but I didn't realize that it had the all red hand, I guess I must have been so focussed on the dial logo to notice the hand Thinking about it, the 1655 had the all red/orange hand, maybe the 1675 all red hands were produced at the same time, but phased out when the next version of the Explorer II (should really be considered the Explorer III) was released with the Submariner-style dial and silver-tipped GMT hand, Rolex did have a habit of messing with production parts back in the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitch Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Thanks!! http://www.ofrei.com/page1119.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbird100 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Not all of the UAE 1675s had the blue bezel but some did. Also, the blue bezel was given away during service in the late 70s by Rolex. These went to the general public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rymeister Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Wow speed bird your build looks great i love all the slight variations on the 1675. Wear it well buddy looks real nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Not all of the UAE 1675s had the blue bezel but some did. Also, the blue bezel was given away during service in the late 70s by Rolex. These went to the general public. I guess back in the 70s, Rolex were happier to give the customer options, rather than their new policy of swapping any inconsistent/old parts for new stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapman57 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Guys - is the popular opinion that this base watch (often stated as 'Trevors'?) is NOW the way to go when building a limited budget 1675? Is it a better option that the previous Josh 1655 option? I have read the many threads on these builds over the past weeks, but it seems to be inconclusive or not debated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbird100 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hey Map, If I were to do it again, I'd go the 1655 route. The Trevor 1675 is an okay place to start but I didn't save any money and probably had more hassle. Let me lay it out. With the Trevor 1675 you get a case that is okay but the CGs are wrong, caseback is wrong-ish depending on the era. Hands are wrong, dial isn't perfect, bezel insert is waaaay wrong. If you opt for the jubilee bracelet, the clasp is wrong. Also the bezel ring isn't quite right either. You have to drill the lugs and if you don't have the correct equipment, this will not be easy You're going to have to source, beg, borrow, and steal these parts and some of them aren't cheap. A WSO bezel ring and insert is over $80 and you still have to decide to replace the movement with a more correct low-beat. All in I have $400 in my build and for the same money I could have gone the 1655 route and probably come out ahead. The only parts left from the 1675 as-shipped are the dial (modified and repainted), crystal (because of the Clark fit issues with the wso bezel, I opted motto change it), mid case, case back, crown, and the jubilee sans clasp. Internally the only thing I kept was the ring. I had to machine new clips to hold the movement as well. Once I decided to build the 1675 all-red it was clear I had to change the hands entirely and ended up having to build a gmt hand from 2 parts. It's not an easy process. You also can't easily replace the crown with a gen part. The rep crown isn't horrible so I kept it. So, to answer your question in short: A gen 1675 in okay shape is $3500. I spent 1/10th of that and with pretty good results. The Trevor base and the 1655 base are simply 2 ways to get the same result. At the end of the day I think the 1655 base will be a bit more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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