Bell & Ross

[Kaneda]

Hey guys, josh just posted this to his site today..

http://perfect-clones.com/1168-p-2146.html

It's the limited edition orange + black BR01-92...

It looks to be 46mm in size..

Sweet moses.. I needs it!

-Kaneda

[Chronus]

Looks like rep PVD ?

Hope this will also be available in SS as well, so I can get it PVD'd properly via finepics

[chris5264]

Looks great but I would need to know it is actual pvd and not just black paint, looks like it could be real.

[tonton2000]

Its the smaller 39mm version

The 46mm version has a wider strap which tapers down.

[V]

Looks great but I would need to know it is actual pvd and not just black paint, looks like it could be real.

DEFINATELY not real PVD.. Too shiny and black.

[Kaneda]

I just talked with Josh.

It is PVD - not black paint

But, it's 38mm.. not 46mm

D'oh..

By the way, the 46mm in SS will be available next week.

-kaneda

[V]

I just talked with Josh.

It is PVD - not black paint

But, it's 38mm.. not 46mm

D'oh..

By the way, the 46mm in SS will be available next week.

-kaneda

I would be very surprised if this pure black caseback is PVD (at least TiALN Panerai Uses) Mayeb another method?

[FasTTaP]

I'd love to see a nightshot ! :-)

Cool watch

[Estaban]

DEFINATELY not real PVD.. Too shiny and black.

Kostas,

Do a little research before being so sure of yourself. PVD is a process, not a coating. The finish varies by what is being coated.

Here are some variations of PVD coatings on watches:

[cheepoguy]

I like the 39mm size. 46mm is kinda big. I know the present trend is towards bigger watches, but I prefer not to wear a dinner plate on my wrist.

I assume that this model of B&R only comes in the 46mm size.

Cheepo

[Estaban]

Au contraire. The special edition PVD only comes in the 39mm. The 46mm will be stainless steel.

[cheepoguy]

Au contraire. The special edition PVD only comes in the 39mm. The 46mm will be stainless steel.

OK thanks. I like the watch but 46mm is too big so I like the idea of the smaller rep. Here's info on the gen

http://www.thewatchquote.com/Bell-Ross-Ins...ces-No_5603.htm

Cheepo

[Estaban]

Here is a PVD watch that isn't even black or grey.

http://www.koboldwatch.com/store/product_i...bl6sm66s4218tu1

[tvt]

Wrong size

bad PVD

HORRIBLE caseback with FAKE stamped hex screws

been available for atleats a month

NEXT!

[Estaban]

Wrong size

bad PVD

HORRIBLE caseback with FAKE stamped hex screws

been available for atleats a month

NEXT!

I agree. Bring on the SS 46mm version with a rubber strap. Leather on a tool watch??

Yuk!

[cheepoguy]

Thanks guys, just struck that one off the list.

[archibald]

I agree. Bring on the SS 46mm version with a rubber strap. Leather on a tool watch??

Yuk!

I bet an enterprising aftermarket parts supplier will offer an orange dial/PVD coat service package deal for the 46mm rep...easy profit IMO.

But if the factory opts to save 85 cents by not milling out some (non-functional even) hexegon holes on the back, there's no way I pay even close to what they're going to ask for this watch.

BTW, is the gen caseback different on the PVD than on the SS?

[JosePR]

i would buy it with this strap, and if i see the orange lume,,

the rep still needs some perfection

[kasi]

Wrong Caseback, Wrong Band,Wrong Screws.Wrong engravings.

Here is the real deal of the limited 250

[V]

Kostas,

Do a little research before being so sure of yourself. PVD is a process, not a coating. The finish varies by what is being coated.

Here are some variations of PVD coatings on watches:

Yeap.. you are right.. I am just used to the Panerai coating

[Highflyingclive]

I think that critism of the dummy bolts on the caseback of the new B&R rep is just a little OTT. On the original, these bolts retain the removable lugs. Removable so that the watch can be mounted in a desk-stand!

But what would happen if the lugs were removable?

The watch would be a lot more expensive, for very small, if any, added benefit - and the dealers would be inundated with requests for replacement screws... just as they are on Radiomir reps.

You know that we wIs (with emphasis on the "I") can't leave well alone... :-)

And I think that complaining about Jos's PVD finish might wait until we have actually seen an example.

Seems only fair.

As for "Leather on a tool watch?"... B&R offer rubber, canvas and... leather. Look here: http://www.bellross.com/#

I know that one of the reasons for the delay in launching this watch is that Jos was not satisfied with the quality of leather strap that he was originally offered from his supplier.

I was fortunate enough to see a prototype of this watch (in ss) whilst in China last month, so perhaps I am a little biased. But I can attest to the huge effort that Jos has put into this project.

Mine is on order.

[tvt]

Fair enough Clive.

I can understand the argument that no one will see the back oif the watch so why sweat the screws, but I must respectufylluy disagree.

First of all people through around terms like "perfect", "exact" or "1:1" WAY to frequently. the facr is that very little could scream FAKE more than stamped fake hex bolts. If the maker is going for an "exact" copy then they need to replicate all the details.

To your point I think that the watch looks very nice from the front (the full sized version) and it should please many fans.

[kasi]

The fake has normal bolts to hold the band and the original has hex bolts you even get the right tool to change bands with the watch.

[Highflyingclive]

The fake has normal bolts to hold the band and the original has hex bolts you even get the right tool to change bands with the watch.

@Kasi.. the prototype that I saw had the strap retained by allen screws, just like the original.

But all any of us have seen have seen so far is a prototype. Maybe next week we will see the finished replica.

I hope so. For a brief moment last month, I had the prototype on my wrist...

The wait is killing me.

Edited November 19, 2006 by Highflyingclive

[kasi]

@Kasi.. the prototype that I saw had the strap retained by allen screws, just like the original.

But all any of us have seen have seen so far is a prototype. Maybe next week we will see the finished replica.

I hope so. For a brief moment last month, I had the prototype on my wrist...

The wait is killing me.

No need of tehe prototype if you have the real deal