dieselpower Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I am about to send my ingod44 feet first dial for re-luming. I want it to look authentic for an old dial so don't care about glowing in the dark. The re-lumer has said I can choose my own colour so the question is this: what pan tone colour would you experts recommend for a nice creamy faded 5513 dial that has not been touched by anything other than sunlight for the last 40 years? Something like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Something that old should have spent lots of time in the sun. So make the insert match the dial, both looking a little sunburnt, and make the lume slightly creamy colored, just a little darker than the dial paint. This photo makes it yellower than it really is, think "espresso crema" for tint, but this pale. Match the pearl/hands to the dial and you're set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monito1975 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I think Nanuq is right on the money. Just a litle creamy should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Thanks for the input chaps, anyone care to put a pan tone number where their mouth is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 On the other hand I have a 1665 from 1971 and its index plots are stark, blazing pure white. Two schools of thought here: 1) lots of sun bleaches the plots, or 2) humidity forces the creaminess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Given that I am in the UK I think sun-bleached is unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Pan tone? Isn't that the sound you get when you drop your pancake skillet on the woodstove? From 1971, pure white From 1958, eeeeever so slightly offwhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Given that I am in the UK I think sun-bleached is unlikely Pfffffft. What are the chances it's lived it's entire long existence in the dreary UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I would stick with white. Artificially colored lume rarely looks authentic to me. And make sure it either does not glow or glows very little & fades quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Pfffffft. What are the chances it's lived it's entire long existence in the dreary UK? Dreary, dreary! Outrageous!! The country that gave the world Led Zeppelin, Bentley Motor Cars, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Gordon Ramsay can hardly be called 'dreary' - take that back you colonial cousin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I would stick with white. Artificially colored lume rarely looks authentic to me. And make sure it either does not glow or glows very little & fades quickly. Do you think I should stick with the colour that the dial comes in ie this: It just looks too pale for me. I really love the cream colour that you see with gen vintage pieces. Maybe I'm mad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Not mad, but possibly toying with fate. Either way, I would have the markers repainted (with paint, not lume), because aftermarket dials usually come from the factory with brightly glowing lume (a dead give-away of fakery). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 I darkened my Ingod dial mildly, it was white like yours and I "smoked" it a shade darker.....but just a tiny bit. Now, I'm glad I did.. as the pearl I got later matches well...better than this particular picture shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Dreary, dreary! Outrageous!! The country that gave the world Led Zeppelin, Bentley Motor Cars, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Gordon Ramsay can hardly be called 'dreary' - take that back you colonial cousin! Pffffft! Here's a uniquely British method of maintaining your over-inflated sense of dreary British pride. (running away chortling) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 @ Nook, Darn it - I was looking for that. If I paypal you the stamp money will you post it back to me?Anyway, back on topic, I've also got a yuki pearl on the way to me so I'll be able to have the pearl, hands and dial all done the same colour. Is the 'blank' yuki pearl any good? I know the ofrei pearls are good but I can't bring myself to shell out $65 for one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 DP, I've done several "blank" Yuki pearls and they come out very nice. They may be slightly too large in inside diameter (the internal hemisphere) but not overly so. Here's a better photo of the Snowflake showing the color with more accuracy. This is a gen, untouched dial. This is also a Yuki pearl I filled with lacquer. It's a "bone" colored offwhite lacquer for refinishing chips in appliances. At first it wasn't dark enough so I stirred in some espresso powder to add tint and to make it appear slightly grainy. <----- process not yet patented In the first photo the pearl is washed out but the dial/hands tint is spot on. In the second photo the pearl is spot on but the dial is too dark. Blargh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Pearl paint is spot on Nanuq. I'm going to look for that paint. Diesle, Ofrei pearls are 24$ not 65$. If its the shipping killing you, order a pile if tools with the pearls http://www.ofrei.com/page_150.html Also, no matter what brand you buy get a few extra... those little pearls are like super balls and can be launched into outer space with a tiny one inch drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillycheez Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 You guys are too much. Patina varies widely and nobody really knows why they end up that way. Matching hands and faded inserts were a rarity up until the last 10 years. It's a vintage phenomena... Or rather part swapped and priced accordingly... :/ My tastes I like vintage egg white on 1665s. Vintage cream and orange patina on 5512, 5513, and 1655s. Always matching hands for me, and fat font inserts with a creamy pearls. I like fat lugs, thick crown guards and sharp edges. Pretty much a clean unpolished baby. Primo example gens is what I like and after owning and selling a couple sweet 5513s I've realized a Franken project will only satisfy my needs for perfection. OP get what ever color you think looks best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Pearl paint is spot on Nanuq. I'm going to look for that paint. Diesle, Ofrei pearls are 24$ not 65$. If its the shipping killing you, order a pile if tools with the pearls http://www.ofrei.com/page_150.html Also, no matter what brand you buy get a few extra... those little pearls are like super balls and can be launched into outer space with a tiny one inch drop. It is the postage that kills me and, I don't want any tools! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 DP, here's your solution to those dreary UK days. And it might draw a little needed attention at the pub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 @ Nook, perfecto! Just my colour should go well with my leather chaps and cowboy hat. My moustache is coming on great guns as well. It's fun to stay at the YMCA!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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