Severe crown/stem issue rolex bp sub c

[sputim]

I have my rolex bp sub asian eta nor for a month and it worked like a charm so far! But suddenly when I tried to set time via the crown it didn't pop out correctly and it stucked in first position. Then when i turn the crown ut sets the time instead of windong the movement. Does anyone have an idea what could be my problem? Take a look at the picture where I have removed the stem.

Thanks for any help and advice I appreciate!

[ceejay]

Looks like you took the stem retaining screw completely out?

If so you will have to remove the hands and dial to re assemble the key works. Only unscrew the stem retainer until the stem is released!

[SSTEEL]

What did you use to release the stem? If you push past the flat screwdriver protection recess, then keyless works could be messed up.

 

[sputim]

Oh damn i used a thin needle until i heard the click..then i was able to remove it. But how on earth did this happen anyway to the stem? Any idea? And is it still possible for a watchsmith to repair this watch?:/

[SSTEEL]

Oh dear.  Where are you located?  Knowing this, we can suggest local repairs/modders for you.

[sputim]

Hmm so its not possible to do it myself without knowledge? I am located in Switzerland..probably a bit difficult to find a repfriendly watchsmith :/

[SSTEEL]

There are several guides on how to tackle the repair yourself, search, keyless+tutorial

[sputim]

Ok so its keyless for sure? And what was the problem with the stem before I removed it? Any ide? Thanks ssteel i appreciate your help!

Edited May 19, 2013 by sputim

[omgiv]

You might not be hosed yet. Try to gently insert the stem wiggling it gently. It might snap in place. If not try to gently press the stem release button while inserting the stem. I say gently and not too far. If it won't stay, you may have to reset the keyless works. With these movements, I always put it into the time setting mode before removing the stem. Best of luck!

[sputim]

Ok thanks I ll give it a try. Problem was that I wasn't able to put it in time setting mode to remove it since that was my initial problem. Suddenly I wasn't able to pull the crown out. No idea why this happened to my brand new bp sub with asian eta. Is this quite common?

[omgiv]

I would not say that it is common. Did the stem just come out on its own? If so, there is something broken or too much force was used. It shouldn't come out on its own.

[sputim]

No it didn't come out by itswlf but i wasnt able to pull out the crown in the winding/date/time position..that was when i opened the caseback and removed the stem with the stem remover..but now i think that made it worse..but i know a watchsmith who would probably repair it..do you think its a big deal the keyless work for a watchsmith ?

[SSTEEL]

10 minute job for a good watch smith.

[sputim]

Ok guys thanks for your help. I think for me this is the way to go! Still my aim is to collect the right tools and learn more about movements to start doing jobs like this by myself since I am very interested! Cheers

[sneed12]

Looks like you took the stem retaining screw completely out?

 

 

ETA 28xx movements don't use a stem retaining screw.

 

@ the op: here is how you reset the keyless

http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/132392-eta-keyless-tutorial/

[ceejay]

ETA 28xx movements don't use a stem retaining screw.

 

@ the op: here is how you reset the keyless

http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/132392-eta-keyless-tutorial/

 

Thanks, I am learning everyday Still a long, long way to go!

 

Cheers

[tr573]

Fixing the keyless is a good first 'get into the movement' project. It's not too hard. Getting the hands back on right and the dwo lined back up is the part that takes the most time for me.

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[wilazn]

Hit up katt on RWI. He fixes a few stem/crown issues I had with a few watches that I fubar'ed. Quick turn around time too.

[SSTEEL]

Fixing the keyless is a good first 'get into the movement' project. It's not too hard. Getting the hands back on right and the dwo lined back up is the part that takes the most time for me.

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Your first post in a year!  Get yourself over to the intro area, long overdue mate

[tr573]

Your first post in a year! Get yourself over to the intro area, long overdue mate

Haha. I post on RG a lot, RWI a little but I've only lurked here till now. Just felt like being encouraging there - fixing a keyless is how I got my feet wet too

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[SSTEEL]

Cool.  I am a member there too, but RWG is my home.

[Geof3]

Seems the Asian clones tend to have keyless works/stem issues. There is another discussion regarding this and some that have modded their Asian with gen eta parts for the fix. Might be part of the problem. It's possible something broke in the stem/clutch system that caused your issue in the first place. As mentioned a fairly simple, but delicate, job with the proper tools.

[mymanmatt]

You most likely have dislocated the yoke. The yoke is part of the keyless, not a major problem. A good smith can do the job in 20 mins.

[sneed12]

Seems the Asian clones tend to have keyless works/stem issues. There is another discussion regarding this and some that have modded their Asian with gen eta parts for the fix.

Nope--the Asian clone and gen parts both work exactly the same and pretty much seem to have the same level of finishing. They're stamped steel parts. It's just a consequence of the way ETA designed the keyless.

[tr573]

I seem to have the most keyless issues with the really worn out old swiss movements - whatever factory makes the 36mm DJ/DD reps that Josh and Andrew sell seem to always cram old 17j 2836's in them.  I've had more problems with the keyless on those than anything else - on some of them the parts are so worn that even after reassembling, the first time I try to pull the stem it gets kicked again.