van_damme1988 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 I was derping around the TD's to find out what is new, when suddenly..... IWC Portuguese Chrono V3 (3714-47) ! I missed the V2 though... To be honest, i saw a grey dial 3714 that tried to act like a V2 but was terrible. And now we have a V3: http://timeshops.net/product.php?id_product=13863 The only updates I see is the new crown, whilst completely off (Probus Scafusia logo on the crown is really bad), brushed caseback (looks ok to me), and the new tachy ring, looks that shape seems to be ok, but white markers should have been longer and "touch" the dial. And when you look at the specs, i still do not understand what do they mean by "English flag". And gentleman, behold! It houses CAREFULLY SELECTED 7750 MOVEMENT. QUALITY HAS IMPROVED THAN BEFORE. I have always been in love with 3714, but it looks like the sec@6 problem can be solved only by the three jewel mod currently offered by domi, but mike stated somewhere that he is working on his own solution as well, or by swaping rep movement for gen. Overall nice rep, but V3 really? Gen dial with the new style 4 and cut off 6 is simply beatiful. And sourcing gen parts for franken is nowadays almost impossible and when you are lucky, movement 600-750 EUR, gen dial 150 EUR (old style, used)-350 EUR (new style, impossible to find), crown 100-150 EUR and you have to shorten chrono pushers, duble AR the crystal (stock single looks just too cheap) and the last gen tachy ring for sale has been seen like 3 years ago. And if you are lucky, you are somewhere at 1500 EUR with stock rep strap (gen strap add 180-350 EUR). I love the 3714's style, and would buy it as a gen if i had funds, but as a rep or franken project, it ain't deal maker for me. At the franken price I will rather add 700 EUR and buy new Omega Aqua Terra Golf edition with Co-Axial movement and transparent caseback...(saw used for 2200 EUR and missed the sale.... AD's are selling these here in Slovakia for 3500-4050 EUR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnyJones Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 How can you tell what version it is? I just received one of these today but dunno what the version is. I assume it's version 1 or 2. I can post pics and review if people are interested. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_damme1988 Posted August 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 That would be very helpful. Basicaly V1 was released few years ago and the obvious flaw was polished caseback, whilst gen should have it brushed. Also AR on the crystal was missing and the inner tachy ring was of bad shape and the crown featured water resistance mark (fisk) just like the early gen versions. V2 was aired few months ago but i have seen only grey version. V2 had all these updates. I was little bit ironic in my post, as i think that V2 and V3 is the same. I do not see any difference. So if you have some of these, pics would help. I am not 3714 expert though, so other maybe other more experienced guys (i.e. concepta) will add their 0.02c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Gents I am itching for one of these to so any pictures & review would be welcome . I think the V3 has the newer crown What one does yours have Vinnie? VD1988 what do you think is wrong with it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnyJones Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) Mine definitely is version 1. The crown has a fish symbol and the caseback is polished. I put photos and a review into another thread. Storm, if the new one has the AR coating I would go for it if you can live with the small seconds hand issue. As posted above, I would assume it's not sorted out even for the newest version to be safe but that's just how I would think about it. For me it would be worth it anyway to get the look. But then if this Ver 1 fails in a few months I guess I'll be singing a different tune ha ha. I paid about the same $ for a new Bulova chronograph years back and it failed within a year. I was [censored] that a new watch wouldn't last (quartz movement no less). So I guess my expectations for a rep are lower. Thanks! Edited August 25, 2013 by VinnyJones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_damme1988 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) VD1988 what do you think is wrong with it ? The crown deffinitely is newer, but the line bordering IWC script which looks like rugby ball seems to be beveled under W. The line is not continuous. Also the Probus Scafusia script - font is slightly bigger and wider than it should be, which results that the circle comming from I to C is too flat. But maybe it is just me who sees it. Overall the new crown deffinitely is an improvement and is still better than the old water resistance fish. And update to inner tachy ring - seems to be the same as on the previous versions, so no improvement here. Edited August 25, 2013 by van_damme1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhc22 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Can always replace the crown with gen as it fits the rep tube. I have a spare from a build I have on the go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiemark Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Still a 7750, dont care who and how it was 'selected'. And the clasp is a pilot's clasp not a portuguese's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Still a 7750, dont care who and how it was 'selected'. And the clasp is a pilot's clasp not a portuguese's. Whatcha talkin bout Willis I aint seeing too much to be moaning about on the clasp front , and many of us are not that bothered by the little details that only we see. I think one of the very good things is that TS seems to offer a 1 Year guarantee . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfl Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 And the clasp is a pilot's clasp not a portuguese's. Why do you says this markiemark? The clasp is actually correct for the watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiemark Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Because I saw a portuguese with this clasp, so I assumed that was a portuguese clasp. My bad, sorry guys! http://www.acejewelers.com/en/accessories/folding-clasps/iwc-folding-clasp-18mm-in-stainless-steel-iwa13953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfl Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Interesting...I have not come across that particular clasp yet. The older 3714's came with a Tang buckle, but the newer one's come like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiemark Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 There is also this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 There is also this one: That is from the Yacht Club and not a 3714 Other buckles here The other one could be a Da Vinci again not the Porto's we are talkin bout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiemark Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 That is from the Yacht Club and not a 3714 Other buckles here The other one could be a Da Vinci again not the Porto's we are talkin bout I know, but I just wanted to show another clasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_damme1988 Posted August 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Yep, StormTooper4 is right. Clasp is fine. This is cut from 2007 dealers catalogue, so as you see, 3714 can be ordered with both clasp or bucle styles: And here is one beautiful gen i found saved im my pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfl Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) What?? You didn't like my clasp pic? Edited August 29, 2013 by jamesfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiemark Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 The difference between rep and gen buckle is ok. But the difference between rep and gen clasp is HUGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfl Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 The difference between rep and gen buckle is ok. But the difference between rep and gen clasp is HUGE! Not sure if that comment is directed at my photo. If it is could you please elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 So, do you guys think it's worth the gamble to buy TS Watch's updated Porto with 1 year warranty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiemark Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Not sure if that comment is directed at my photo. If it is could you please elaborate? No, not directly. I had a 3717 with a rep clasp myself. I found the build quality and finish not that good in my opinion. The construction was rather wobbly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_damme1988 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 As long as those movements last only one year unmodded - depends. I would say no, unless tou want to add few jewels or go gen with movement. But if you want to wear it occasionaly, not on a daily basis, it should survive for a while. I am still waiting for some updates from people who asked domi to make his three jewel mod, if this only makes the movement more reliable or solves sec@6 problem. But nobody with three jewel mod seems to wear 3714 on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfl Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) No, not directly. I had a 3717 with a rep clasp myself. I found the build quality and finish not that good in my opinion. The construction was rather wobbly...Interesting....My experience has been quite the opposite and I think the rep clasps are great, at least the 4 I have.I am wondering if you got one from a different maker or perhaps from a bad batch. I do find that the finish on the Gen clasp is cleaner and more polished, but it only really noticeable under a loupe. Luckily mine have no wobble and lock securely. So, do you guys think it's worth the gamble to buy TS Watch's updated Porto with 1 year warranty?Rek- as for whether you should take the gamble, I think that you are the only one that can really answer that question. If you buy the watch, you know that you are buying a watch that will most likely fail at some point. How will you feel when it fails? If it fails within the first year, what does TS's guarantee cover? I am guessing that you will still have to deal with the expense and hassle of sending the watch back to TS and then waiting several months for repair.If it dies after 1 year, will you be comfortable with just accepting the loss? Will you want to try to sell it at a loss for part? Or would you be happy to paying to have it serviced or maybe trying to build a Franken out of it?These are questions that only you can answer. Edited August 30, 2013 by jamesfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiemark Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I guess it was just mine then. Every time I tried to close it, it was either "too much" to the left or right to get that clicking sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfl Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I am curious where you sourced yours? I got all mine from Trevor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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