stevedrk Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Reps should have a friction washer. Usually they are loose and you have to bend them slightly to create friction. You can get a friction washer from Clark on eBay. Works well. Sent from my BLU STUDIO 5.3 II using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Well, it came in yesterday, looks good but the bezel is way too loose. You can spin it with a flick. Upon removing the bezel, there is no friction washer and no groove for the retaining ring. Anyone else have this pt model with the same problem? Do the reps have a friction washer? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What do you mean by groove on the retainer ring? The only grove the retainer ring should have for that model(if the retainer is the better one) is none. If the watch is built like gen the retainer gasket should reside on the case end. No wire spring for the gen like assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVNE Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Can anyone tell me if this particular case uses a 26mm dial? Thanks! no this uses a 26.5mm dial. Cartel's use a 26mm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaethomp Posted April 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 What do you mean by groove on the retainer ring? The only grove the retainer ring should have for that model(if the retainer is the better one) is none. If the watch is built like gen the retainer gasket should reside on the case end. No wire spring for the gen like assembly.i believe they put the wrong bezel and insert on the rep. I contacted pt but no luck with a replacement bezel. I've found one on eBay with a insert and friction ring I ordered the other day. Not gen but looks good. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Pictures please brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) There is a thread on RWI in which Rolex Addict says this is the best 1680 case he's worked on. He says when putting in a gen spec crystal it's a perfect fit and you throw away the plastic retainer ring/gasket that this model comes with. It is not gen-like, obviously. After replacing the crystal you pitch the plastic ring and the bezel pressure fits down over the crystal. Another option is to have JMB custom machine a new retainer ring for the watch. This is what a lot of people have done and it makes a huge difference. I own this watch. The insert is actually awesome. It's a service replacement style insert, so the numbers are thin but it has a nice vintage pearl. Many 1680s in the wild have had inserts replaced, so this is correct to gen. The bezel shape and teeth are also spot on to gen, so you don't need to replace it, but some folks do. 6 of one, I say. When I look at mine compared to the gen reds on TRF and VRF my bezel is identical. I'm replacing my crystal with a T19 and if I have plans to pressure fit my bezel back down onto the crystal, but if I have trouble then I'll go the JMB route. Edited April 18, 2014 by Mendota Explorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Got a response and ordered this morning ! Hmmm. After emailing and sending PMs on the various forums still no response for me. Lucky you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcotter Posted April 20, 2014 Report Share Posted April 20, 2014 yup, RA does recommend the Puretime 1680. can anyone confirm that there is proper engraving between the lugs? thank you, mcotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaethomp Posted April 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 The engraving is done with laser and does not look accurate. Also the serial number on mine makes it from 1984. Not accurate either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Yes, engravings are wrong. Thankfully when it is on the bracelet you can't see any of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaethomp Posted April 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Pictures please brother. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwell Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 If its ok, can u please post photos of the crowns for comparison? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Here's one of the original QC pics from mine showing the large crown. Here's a pic showing it after I replaced the crown with a vintage gen crown. When you hold the two crowns side by side there doesn't appear to be a huge difference, but looks are deceiving. When they are installed on the watch the difference is night and day. Edited April 23, 2014 by Mendota Explorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaethomp Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Here's one of the original QC pics from mine showing the large crown. Here's a pic showing it after I replaced the crown with a vintage gen crown. When you hold the two crowns side by side there doesn't appear to be a huge difference, but looks are deceiving. When they are installed on the watch the difference is night and day.do you have any pics of the bezel assembly? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwell Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 The first (QC) pic shows a thicker crown compared to the gen crown... Thank you for posting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I can also post a pic of the coronet on both crowns if you want, but the size difference alone is the selling point. The gen crown has a crisp and precise coronet, while the other one is larger and not as precise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVNE Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Would a TC crown screw right on to the rep tube on this case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I'm not sure. Is it gen-spec? If yes, then it will. The question I have, though, is what style of crown is the modern TC? Is it the same thing as these vintage crowns? When I bought my gen, the seller (a parts guy over in Switzerland) just advertised it as a vintage 7mm. I know it's not a 702 so I'm assuming I have a vintage 703? Is that what the TC crown is, only new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVNE Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Yes. I believe it is a 703 rep with gen spec threading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAY48 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 no this uses a 26.5mm dial. Cartel's use a 26mm Thanks for that! I'm on the lookout for a 26-26.5mm dial case with lug holes so I might resort to buying this version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) The lug holes on this one are already drilled to accept gen bars, so that's a plus! Just note that when you use gen bars in the factory bracelet, which is great quality by the way, the gen bars eat up any wiggle room and forgiveness for lining up the tips with the holes. I am unable to use my gen spec Yuki bars with these endlinks because I simply can't line them up. Two solutions are to either get WSO endlinks, which some people say solves the issue, or try to find a 1.8mm shoulderless bar. I just want the tips to show through, so I don't care if the bar OD is 1.8mm. You don't see that when using a bracelet. If I ever put it on a leather band or Nato, then I can use my gen spec bars. Edited April 24, 2014 by Mendota Explorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaethomp Posted April 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 The lug holes on this one are already drilled to accept gen bars, so that's a plus! Just note that when you use gen bars in the factory bracelet, which is great quality by the way, the gen bars eat up any wiggle room and forgiveness for lining up the tips with the holes. I am unable to use my gen spec Yuki bars with these endlinks because I simply can't line them up. Two solutions are to either get WSO endlinks, which some people say solves the issue, or try to find a 1.8mm shoulderless bar. I just want the tips to show through, so I don't care if the bar OD is 1.8mm. You don't see that when using a bracelet. If I ever put it on a leather band or Nato, then I can use my gen spec bars.what are your thoughts in this bezel and insert? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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