Mike on a bike Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 First off steel has already weighed in but my friend other RWG although uses steel for repairs and thinks he is top notch asked me to bring here to the tech center (they joke call us the sleepy knitting circle but when expertise is needed....... ..) to get more feedback. I personally took it as gospel coming from Micky but let's see what the rest of the think tank says. Swiss? in a pam 27b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 "Pam 27b with swiss soprod power reserve module" or not. for color: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirotenshi Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) looks like a variant of the asian 21J, or A2892 (but I dont think 2892 have power reserve function). Edited April 26, 2014 by shirotenshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 looks like a variant of the asian 21J, or A2892 (but I dont think 2892 have power reserve function). They don't but the Soprod module is added to add the power reserve function. I'm not familiar enough with various movements though to be able to identify what this one is. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpz5142 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Based on the pics it does look to be a 2892 variant, tbh it looks Asian but would need to get as close up to the escape wheel area as possible. From the pic posted I don't see any stamps there so that's what leads me to say Asian until proven swiss. But then again I am viewing this on my iPhone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Thanks guys have some PMs in regard also , now steel said seagull no doubt about it and no one has said Swiss so I have contacted my friend and given him the bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I believe the absence of markings is another tip off. I didn't realize that the Seagull movements had no markings, but someone else told me a few days ago that they were looking at a movement in a watch that came from the factory with a Seagull movement , and it had no markings. Swiss ETa would definitely have the ETA stamp as well as the movement #. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpz5142 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I also would say seagul. Their movements are typically the nickel plated with nice decorations on the visible parts and no stamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxter Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Hey guys .... Thanks for all your help on this ... i bought it as a swiss a while ago so was selling it as swiss, obviously withdrawn for now, i will try to get some more mov't shots just in case but for now it looks like i'll take it as being not swiss. TBH if it is a seagul i'm happier than if it's a clone eta as they are a decent reliable workhorse ..... this one ( whatever it is ) keeps really good time so it's not all bad Edited April 26, 2014 by baxter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misiekped Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 It is a seagul movement Just service a Perrelet Eve after sea bath and has the same movement with the same stamp by the balance wheel Very good piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxter Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 It is a seagul movement Just service a Perrelet Eve after sea bath and has the same movement with the same stamp by the balance wheel Very good piece Thanks for the clarification ........ pardon my ignorance is the power reserve a soprod module ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Thanks "M". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxter Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 And thanks mike for putting the thread up for me .. you're a star mate !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misiekped Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Thanks for the clarification ........ pardon my ignorance is the power reserve a soprod module ? Don't know on that, but movement looks like a copy of 2892 Few picture captured by iPhone of the Perrelet ladies watch Pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Though I am no movement aficionado. I believe there are only 2 or 3 Variations of this model. There are the ETA 2892 versions EL/Neil/Hopno & later DSN and there were the A21J movement versions. If this is a new Seagull movement based version where is it from? Cos I ain't been seeing them yet ? Because to my old eyes it looks like a DSN version This is an A Series with T Lume , Same Movement This is the Movement in the cheaper versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Hmmm trooper , called Baxter to take a look see............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxter Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Ok. This watch came from a longstanding member over on repgeek and it was stated as originally coming from DSN with swiss soprod. i've taken the back off again to look at the markings and take shots with the rotor in different positions. It certainly doesn't ( thankfully ) look like the cheap TT version but definitely the DSN version. Markings here say : S1 1ACV Here they are more visible : 2892A2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Don't know why people would say it's a Seagull or clone. This can be spotted form miles away. A Swiss 2892 with Soprod module. Almost impossible to source in reps these days. An old school beauty! Take care of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 First pics up close Rolex , others had mentioned to me lack of markings w/ do you think that 2892A2 marking seals it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirotenshi Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Don't know on that, but movement looks like a copy of 2892 Few picture captured by iPhone of the Perrelet ladies watch Pretty cool Thats a damn beautiful watch for the ladies! Whats the cost for one of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 First pics up close Rolex , others had mentioned to me lack of markings w/ do you think that 2892A2 marking seals it? Yes. Judging from the refined finishing of the 'cotes de geneve' and 'perlage' the movement is definitely Swiss. The 2892 alone in it's basic configuration does not have a PR module. This PR module is Swiss (SOPROD) and has not yet been copied by the Chinese. So I don't believe they put a SOPROD on a seagull or clone. I would find that very hard to believe and I have never come across such a mash up.... So without having the movement in my hands I would 99% sure say it's a Swiss 2892 with SOPROD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxter Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Thanks for your input Rolexman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSTEEL Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 I agree, 2892-2 ETA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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