dbane883 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Can anyone confirm if Rolex ever used the parachrom balance wheel in any 3135's in the later versions of the 16610 subs? I think there was an overlap with with SubC's and the 16610 and just wondering if the newer hairsprings were ever used in a sub prior to the modern ceramics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misiekped Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 They were installed gradually to new watches, but 16610 99% not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Up until the parachrom hairspring came on the scene, rolex used Nivarox hairspring material made by FAR/Nivarox (now owned by swatch) and not much different from parachrom in composition. Parachrom material is probably not a whole lot better (if any) than Nivarox but RWC needed something to boast about, especially since they started making their own hairsprings, so parachrom is their new Rock Star. I am immune to BS and because rolex is about 70% hype and 30% substance (imho), everyone now wants the parachrom hairspring, better or not. One of the best timekeepers rolex made was the 3035 and they came out long before parachrom hairsprings...with a version of the tried and true Clinergic 21 escapement made by FAR/Nivarox. As for a mechanical watch keeping good time, you might find it anywhere. For example, I have been wearing an old 1970s Wittnauer 'front loader' automatic that I c/o a while back and in about 10 days it is still within about 40 seconds (slow) of being 'on time' compared to when I put it on. This is a watch that sold for around $125.00 35 or 40 years ago with a 17 jewel unadjusted movement. I did not put a new mainspring or anything in it or adjust the timing rate, just c/o and put it on. I did not use 'seven different herbs and spices' either...just Moebius 9020, D5, 9415, and KT22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbane883 Posted October 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yeah.. fully aware considerable marketing was involved with the blue spring to give the perception it was better. I dont beleive any tests have proved that it is... If it was so great, then why are they now including the new "Syloxi" hairsprings in some watches? http://www.ablogtowatch.com/rolex-begins-using-silicon-syloxi-hairsprings-caliber-2236-watch-movements/ I just figured that it might be a possibility that some late model 16610's slipped through with the blue springs. Or said in another way, is a G-series (i think that was the last model) 16610 with a blue spring completely inaccurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacher62 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 It won't keep perfect time no matter what the hairspring is made of. Saying is..."if you have to have the right time, get a Timex, if you want class, get a Rolex." You can pay less than $30 and get a watch that will keep, virtually, impeccable time and it will last for 5 to 10 years with just a battery change each year. If you keep a $5,000. Rolex for 10 years, doubtless you would have spent another $400 - $600 sometime in that range for a service. I have a Timex Ironman that is more than 15 years old and it takes a battery each year. Still keeps pretty good time and is waterproof everywhere I go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bc1221 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yeah.. fully aware considerable marketing was involved with the blue spring to give the perception it was better. I dont beleive any tests have proved that it is... If it was so great, then why are they now including the new "Syloxi" hairsprings in some watches? http://www.ablogtowatch.com/rolex-begins-using-silicon-syloxi-hairsprings-caliber-2236-watch-movements/ I just figured that it might be a possibility that some late model 16610's slipped through with the blue springs. Or said in another way, is a G-series (i think that was the last model) 16610 with a blue spring completely inaccurate? serviced 16610s that needed a new hair spring/balance assembly would have them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misiekped Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 serviced 16610s that needed a new hair spring/balance assembly would have them too. Not necessarily, as they still have plenty 3135-432 in stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 The metal hairspring is the bane of mechanical watches, always has been. I hate the sight of the damn things. Silicon hairsprings are a giant leap forward imho because they do not get tangled up, are non magnetic, can take much more abuse during, drops, handling/servicing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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