508-Fanatic Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Hi all,I'm debating using this thing to start my build with the dial:http://www.pf-818.com/rspx00008-heritage-hs01-ssss-black-swiss-28363131-p-15775.htmlNoticed a big problem in a QC pic - the bezel pip where the pearl sits, can clearly be seen. Maybe some nice thick enamel paint? Edited October 18, 2015 by 508-Fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted October 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Fill it with some epoxy, and then enamel easy way)Best would be, I think I would try to cut/mold up a raised triangle in some suitable material, epoxy it in, and then polish it to a good geometry and last but not least enamel paint over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant1 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 what are people thinking about the bezel work? to me it seems the most critical / precise part of the build, attempting to do it "by hand" would likely just ruin a piece as "sharp" as this, and likely the hardest part to get done. curious if pbdad could get it done, know he is working on a TM build for aphillipe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted October 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Those lines are super exact, some sort of micro-cnc-milling? I'm thinking it must be easier to do it from stock, than milling the existing bezel.My way worked. It took hell-of-a-time, and it's much more rounded, but good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) I'm thinking that's where the Helenarou case might be a great option, plus you get lugholes already drilled. Problem is, of course, that the insert would be aluminum instead of the ceramic used in the actual Tempus Machina. Edited October 20, 2015 by Mendota Explorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
508-Fanatic Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Those lines are super exact, some sort of micro-cnc-milling? I'm thinking it must be easier to do it from stock, than milling the existing bezel.My way worked. It took hell-of-a-time, and it's much more rounded, but good enough for me. CNC Milling on 2-axis at the least. You could do it with a quality lapper/shaper/grinder but you'd need to be very precise with your work to make that angle notch not look wonky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
508-Fanatic Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I'm thinking that's where the Helenarou case might be a great option, plus you get lugholes already drilled. Problem is, of course, that the insert would be aluminum instead of the ceramic used in the actual Tempus Machina.My biggest problem with HR's bond case for example, is how far the crown tube juts out. Does anyone know of a good fix for this? I do have an extra Athaya 8mm Brevet crown and tube hanging around, maybe that'll help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted October 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I can't agree with the HR Bond-case. The whole ceramic-Sub w/ a twist disappears. Imho, it poses a risk of becoming a "weird" 6538? Or? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
508-Fanatic Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I can't agree with the HR Bond-case. The whole ceramic-Sub w/ a twist disappears. Imho, it poses a risk of becoming a "weird" 6538? Or?You know what? I think you're right. I am going to use the aforementioned HS01 and redo the insert, get some great hands, and proceed with the HR custom dial ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 You know what? I think you're right. I am going to use the aforementioned HS01 and redo the insert, get some great hands, and proceed with the HR custom dial ...It does have a lot of "right" things going for it. If you can grind the crown guards off, and drill lug holes from scratch, it probably covers more of the bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
508-Fanatic Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 It does have a lot of "right" things going for it. If you can grind the crown guards off, and drill lug holes from scratch, it probably covers more of the bases.I didn't think it had crown guards? I still have drill-bits and I am decent at drilling out lugs now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I didn't think it had crown guards? I still have drill-bits and I am decent at drilling out lugs now! Oh wait, lol, I was thinking regular ceramic sub. This one already has then removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphillipe Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Got an update from PBDad - Dial printing is almost done. Sapphire glass is ordered - 10 or so days for it arrive. Case is being chamfered as we speak. Hope to have it towards end of November. Can't rush perfection! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Got an update from PBDad - Dial printing is almost done. Sapphire glass is ordered - 10 or so days for it arrive. Case is being chamfered as we speak. Hope to have it towards end of November. Can't rush perfection!Sweet. Can't wait to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
508-Fanatic Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Got an update from PBDad - Dial printing is almost done. Sapphire glass is ordered - 10 or so days for it arrive. Case is being chamfered as we speak. Hope to have it towards end of November. Can't rush perfection!What is this costing you? How much for dial print? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphillipe Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 What is this costing you? How much for dial print?Not entirely sure. He has budgeted around 1400-1500 with a 10-15% variance.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 A little update... So what's left to do...1) Drill lugholes2) Drill & tap for Athaya crown3) Change to new 300/1000-dial when it arrives4) Change hands to "big Mercedes"-hands in gold5) Domed sapphire (Btw... making the red triangle become "3D" was a p-i-t-a) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphillipe Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 A little update... So what's left to do...1) Drill lugholes2) Drill & tap for Athaya crown3) Change to new 300/1000-dial when it arrives4) Change hands to "big Mercedes"-hands in gold5) Domed sapphire (Btw... making the red triangle become "3D" was a p-i-t-a) MORE PICS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) You know what? I think you're right. I am going to use the aforementioned HS01 and redo the insert, get some great hands, and proceed with the HR custom dial ...Let me know if you find a good vendor with correct hands in gold (but slim hour hand) Edited October 31, 2015 by hologramet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcotter Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 The red triangle is indeed a PITA.......I've had good success with masking w/ scotch tape, not masking as the scotch bonds better. The red is applied carefully w/ a paint pen, 2 applications maybe 3. I've done it on both ceramic & aluminum inserts! The red triangle is really cool . Be sure to remove the tape prior to the paint cures, an hour or less following the last coat......best, mcotter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 The red triangle is indeed a PITA.......I've had good success with masking w/ scotch tape, not masking as the scotch bonds better. The red is applied carefully w/ a paint pen, 2 applications maybe 3. I've done it on both ceramic & aluminum inserts! The red triangle is really cool . Be sure to remove the tape prior to the paint cures, an hour or less following the last coat......best, mcotterI tried over 5-6 different times with enamel paint, but I couldn't achieve the look I was going for. So I finally sued some Loctite "fine" epoxy-cement, using scalpels to mould it to the form I wanted, finished by sanding with 2000 grit (carefully not to scratch the ceramic insert) and finally 2 coats of humbrol enamel paint.I'll show some more pics in a while... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukosaturno Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 it would need some work,time and a good donor... settle for a no date no matter what,and steel,not two tone...or biggest issues will be the bezel and dial,other than this,anything can be made with some precision work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphillipe Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 How much do you think you will have invested in the watch out of curiosity? Mine's getting up there- probably close to 2 grand when it's all said and done.. hoping it looks worth every penny of that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted November 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 How much do you think you will have invested in the watch out of curiosity? Mine's getting up there- probably close to 2 grand when it's all said and done.. hoping it looks worth every penny of that..In my watch?Umm..Noob v3 Hulk (already had it, but for the sake of calculating): 350 USD // Casework easily took me over 30 hours since it was my first case and I did it little by little as I wanted to get aquainted with the different toolks before messing it up)Different tools for case work (maybe everything from 30 USD to 200 USD if you count in Dremel w/ Li-Ion)Bezel = used existing (although about 20-30 hours invested)Bezel insert = used an old rep insert from a 114060 (same here, easily invested 10 hours before I got it right) (add 30 USD maybe for paint supplies and epoxy clay)Athaya Big Crown = aprox 50 USDDial = 150 USDHands? haven't purchased yet = aprox 20-40 USD max?Reluming = Will do myself, so practically free but sure a Watch-Lume.net starter kit = aprox 80 USD (but that will keep me going for a long time...)Sapphire = Haven't decided wether to use the one from HelenaRou 6538-case or from Tiger-Concept 6538-case but let say 25-50 USDCosts = 350 + 30 + 50 + 30 + 35 = 515 USD in partsAuxilliary stuff = from 100 to 300 USD maybe? (but that's a one-time-cost needed for further modding of other projects)Lost income (or if I would have worked extra with my day/nighttime job) = Well.... hahaha... at least 100 hours at about 30-50 USD an hour ... let's not go that route, this is for fun, it would have been much much cheaper to get someone else to do it, but this is a hobby, for me it's the journey and not the end product that is the most important part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted November 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Finally done with the insert... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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