gran Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Searching around for watches I found som familiar looking Sea-Gull watches ...its seems that now we can finaly now get to know exactly what Chinese movement is in the VC retrograde date and the like by finding what movements this company makes. take a look and make up your own mind about the sources of the parts for the inexpensive replicas to be had Follow these links.... http://www.zhonghuawatch.com/ http://www.zhonghuawatch.com/tjho_all.htm http://www.zhonghuawatch.com/2006pic/M178SP.htm http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachment.ph...tachmentid=7877 Sea-gull make some watches with very nice dials and cases. Many Sea-gull automatic watches are sold at good prices in Beijing. These cost about RMB 500-1200. http://www.tsinyi.com/gongsijianjie/about_background.htm Lots of links sorry.... g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Movements http://www.tsinyi.com/produce/list.asp?mai...21160;&zidong=3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmytim Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Okay...The "2000s new product" looks interesting... Cheap but still expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Okay...The "2000s new product" looks interesting... Cheap but still expensive. I think you are missing the point I am trying to make jimmy.... These are our replicas.... put on a new dial and you have the reps.... If someone can read Chinese he can dig deeper into this.... g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 hey gran, do you think this movement has a working date: http://www.tsinyi.com/produce/img/TY2707(1741).jpg because if it has (and if date doesnt go up to 39) that movement would be PERFECT for a lange sax-o-mat replica! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 hey gran, do you think this movement has a working date: http://www.tsinyi.com/produce/img/TY2707(1741).jpg because if it has (and if date doesnt go up to 39) that movement would be PERFECT for a lange sax-o-mat replica! It does work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitime Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 (edited) Hi guys, I actually collect quite a few Chinese vintage watches... "Sea-Gull" is the marketing name for the Tianjin Watch Factory, the largest manufacturer of watches in China. At current, TWF manufactures over 50% of the world's mechanical movements, of which only a small portion are used for replica pieces. The incorrectly termed "Asia Lemania" chronograph mov't, which many of us are familiar with from Daytona clones, is actually a "Venus 150" clone made by TWF. Contrary to popular belief, this movement is actually a licensed production of the original, as TWF had bought the tooling and the production rights sometime in the 1970s, when the Swiss were trying to get out of the mechanical watch business. Incidently, Sea-Gull also manufactures many of the "Asian" automatic movements used in various Panerai and Rolex clones, as well as many of the "private label" models found on German Ebay. In fact, the only mass produced Asian mechanical movement found in replica watches, which is NOT manufactured by TWF, is the infamous 7750 clone... which is manufactured by a series of cottage-industry like outfits in Shenzhen... this may account for why the quality of the 7750 movement is so pool, when compared to any of the other movements. Edited May 2, 2006 by infinitime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Yes! that is fairly correct infinitime! and see this thread for a few of these movements: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=3760&hl= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmytim Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Yes...I can read chinese, that's why I say cheap but expensive (refering to the second last link, I'm sure I know that dial looks like: JAEGER LE COULTRE...so I know these are like our reps...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Call me stupid but which currency is RMB, I can't find it on XE.com (currency converter) Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Chinese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmytim Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 (edited) $1080 RMB comes to around 134.806 USD at this moment... Edited May 3, 2006 by jimmytim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Chinese is what I thought but in XE.com is says Chinese is CNY Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmytim Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 on xe.com, at the bottom of the page, click: "Need More currencies? Use the XE.com Universal Currency Converter." Then RMB (China Yuan Renminbi) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 this is definitely a factory that makes reps....but they cannot post pics of reps...so they modify the dials..but who knows something about watches, knows that they deal with reps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 this is definitely a factory that makes reps....but they cannot post pics of reps...so they modify the dials..but who knows something about watches, knows that they deal with reps! I am not sure we can say that they make the reps but for sure we can safely conclude that that the exact same parts go into making of the replicas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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