Stephane Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Dear All, This is a pictorial and review of the current state of my Fiddy. I originally got it from Kelster and that was a good deal What was done on that watch: It was the right case and a nice looking Fiddy but the movement was Asian based. Some work was needed and here is the list: A true 100% Swiss movement was installed. Super Luminova applied. Case refinished to get the genuine finish (still scratches remains, but again, it's an old watch). Crystal, bezel, everything was reseated. O-Rings greased. Movement was serviced (disassembled, cleaned, checked for damage, oiled and reassembled) Crown Guard was installed correctly, so it seals better now. A new seconds hand has been installed as the old one broke because of its poor quality. The old hour hand has been kept after cleaning it, scratches are only very subtle and do not bother me. Newly added capped minute hand. Dial has been reassembled correctly. Dial surface repainted – surface is absolutely neat now, perfect and very nice structure. Your opinions are welcome First I got this ugly one back a year ago Panerai 1950: my ugly rep Then I got Kelster one Fiddy: Kelster'one before mods Now I have the one pictured here under… If you think some other things should be done, please feel free to shoot. Conclusion Well it was quite hard to finally put my hands on a decent Fiddy. I'm happy it's here now as I have a splendid genuine Panerai Box for it Still, I have no idea which strap I should buy. For the moment it's a BOB Honey one. More than happy to receive some suggestions from experts! Cheers & Thanks for reading. Stephane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Dial, case, crystal, they all are perfect, congrats! Personally, I think it's a pity that the movement -- even if an ETA -- is not accurate to the model. Especially on such a good piece under any other respects. As for the strap, I am sure all other member will suggest you more-or-less brown leather straps, so I'll submit you a black CF instead (on a black face 203, very similar to the fiddy): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted July 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Thanks SSSurfer. Black strap is not my favourite color but I must admit yours looks great. As for the mvt, I have no idea what is accurate or not. So you say, this one should be in there Is it one I could keep for another Pam ? What mvt should I put in that Fiddy ? I have so few time to read Pam literature as I try to keep my knowledge updated with Rolex. It's a pity days aren't doing 48 hours Cheers Stephane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Correct Fiddy movement pictured below. Nice watch, still. I might suggest doing something about that canon pin cap, though. It's a bit awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 If you have gone to this much trouble and it is in the budget I would swap out the movement if it is in the budget (or from a solid case back PAM if you have one) and definitely put in the proper longer canon pinion. That cap is really weird. The top of the pinion should be polished and rounded. Watch does look really good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornerstone Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 There are two camps on the issue of the movement. Yours is a proper ETA unitas movement I believe, but it doesn't have the swan neck regulator of the gen. But here's the thing - in the reps the swan neck regulator is a Chinese add-on, and anybody that knows to look for a swan neck regulator isn't going to be fooled by the other flaws in the movement - and in any case, what kind of fool is taking their watch off and handing it to a Paneristi trying to pass it off in any case. The point is - on the wrist, you have a great Fiddy with a proper ETA movement that will run and run. Black straps look great on it - perhaps my ideal Fiddy strap would be a 'vintage' strap though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Great pics, greater watch @Stephane... Guys, what do you think of Davidsen's latest Ultimate Fiddy offering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uziuzi Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Yes, I am not a fiddy expert, can someone please comment on the new Davidsen Fiddy ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polynomial Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Yes, I am not a fiddy expert, can someone please comment on the new Davidsen Fiddy ??? Hasn't posted pics yet, I think old one was G movement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbrad Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 There are two camps on the issue of the movement. Yours is a proper ETA unitas movement I believe, but it doesn't have the swan neck regulator of the gen. But here's the thing - in the reps the swan neck regulator is a Chinese add-on, and anybody that knows to look for a swan neck regulator isn't going to be fooled by the other flaws in the movement - and in any case, what kind of fool is taking their watch off and handing it to a Paneristi trying to pass it off in any case. Valid points. Personally, I like the correct bridges look - and best to find one w/ a good job done on the Swan's. DSN has the best IMO. Got one coming - I already have a nice Fiddy so really buying DSN's for the mvmt! @Stephane - that's a much nicer looking Fiddy than Mk 1 and also a good pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbrad Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Stephane, your watch is great, the Cannon Pin Cap is a compromise that you know. Higher Cannon Pin is no problem... The movement is a workhorse, if yo uwant to go as clsoe as it gets it is the wrong one, but it is guaranteed to be all Swiss - not one of those Swinese or Chiss movements with some ETA marks but 100% Asian parts... strange stuff going on there, probably not worth the dollars. @ Stephane can always get a proper pin installed. Yeah, there's all sorts of stuff going on - mine is Swiss ETA + CN Swan's / bridges (per The Zigmeister). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Black straps look great on it - perhaps my ideal Fiddy strap would be a 'vintage' strap though. I definitely agree. A truly vintage strap looks amazing on a Fiddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted July 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 @ all: thanks for all these informations. I think I will ask my favourite MM to change the cannon pin for Xmas As for the mvt, you guys seems to say it's a great one: super swiss from switzerland and all without any Asian piece. No one will ever see it when on my wrist except my kids I not stupid enough to show off with these watches. Ok, the straps ? So we have two option a black (superb indeed after some though) and vintage... Maybe 1950 should mean vintage after all. Ok, I get exited now...stop. I'll finish my other projects first. Thanks & Cheers Stephane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 I wouldn't worry about the movement. Any one who knows what they're looking for isn't going to be fooled by the "correct" replica movement, and those who don't know what they're looking for won't care. This is a quality movement that will serve you for a long time. From the front, the watch looks amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 There are two camps on the issue of the movement. Yours is a proper ETA unitas movement I believe, but it doesn't have the swan neck regulator of the gen. But here's the thing - in the reps the swan neck regulator is a Chinese add-on, and anybody that knows to look for a swan neck regulator isn't going to be fooled by the other flaws in the movement - and in any case, what kind of fool is taking their watch off and handing it to a Paneristi trying to pass it off in any case. The point is - on the wrist, you have a great Fiddy with a proper ETA movement that will run and run. Black straps look great on it - perhaps my ideal Fiddy strap would be a 'vintage' strap though. Remember the guy that did try to pass one off? He took the actual Panerai E-series movement out of his 113 and transplanted it into a Fiddy case. Posted pics on P*neristi. They called him out instantly on the serial number. Bottom line, you cannot fool the cognescenti with these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavor flav Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 i think i would not bother getting the swanneck movement.. yours is true swiss and reliable. besides, the gen movement looks nothing like the rep movement and no one would be fooled anyways.. i think the watch looks great! get a good MF strap on there! here is the movement on my 183g which is the same as the gen fiddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted July 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 @Flav: thanks for the input. As I'm not looking to fool anywone...I'll kepp this mvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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