predfan2001 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 (edited) I've never even really considered purchasing a Sea-Dweller, I just like Submariners better. This watch was actually the result of a deal gone bad. I've been looking for a 5512 or a 5513 for months but it's just never worked out. It seems the vintage models must be out of production because nobody has them. I ordered a 5513 from Trustytime without making sure it was available. Turned out it wasn't so Andrew emailed me and asked if I wanted a refund. I said no, I'll just pick something else. Lord only knows why, but the next email I got from him he offered me a "perfect" Sea-Dweller for the $$ I had already paided him for the out of stock watch (btw...there is quite a bit of $$ difference between the two, that's just the kind of guy Andrew is...A+) . I said ok since I don't have a 16600. It just arrived today and I am very pleased. The rehaut is deep and the cgs look good. I like the way the thicker back sits the watch up higher on the wrist. Needless to say, my first MBW purchase will most likely be a 1665. Thanks Andrew! Edited July 29, 2007 by predfan2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005SUBMARINER Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 (edited) i also own the eta SCPSD 16600 .. i love the watch ! the deep dial depth is perfect for a sub , but not the SD . great choice enjoy ! Edited July 30, 2007 by 2005SUBMARINER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cableguy Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 so if the rehaut on this case is good why dont people buy it and swap Noobmariner parts into it?? cheap good sub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predfan2001 Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 (edited) so if the rehaut on this case is good why dont people buy it and swap Noobmariner parts into it?? cheap good sub? The 16600 has a HE valve in the side. That makes it a Sea-Dweller case only. And it wouldn't be cheap. The "perfect" SD lists for $328.00 usd. The one I'd like to do is mod a Noob into a modern nodate if I had a 27mm dial that was accurate. I just love the nodates. Edited July 30, 2007 by predfan2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cableguy Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 stupid me i didnt even think about the HE lol...i knew about that too! hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predfan2001 Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 (edited) stupid me i didnt even think about the HE lol...i knew about that too! hehe Don't worry, we all miss things from time to time. I ordered a 5517 thinking I was going to put an oyster band on it....duh. I knew better but got ahead of myself. Still wanting a vintage nodate 5512 or 5513 Edited July 30, 2007 by predfan2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cableguy Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 ok, thats where im lost....i was looking at a 5517 (thats the military sub right?) i like those funky hands..... it doesnt fit on any bracelet? i noticed it comes with the nato only.... wanna explain that one? =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predfan2001 Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 (edited) ok, thats where im lost....i was looking at a 5517 (thats the military sub right?) i like those funky hands..... it doesnt fit on any bracelet? i noticed it comes with the nato only.... wanna explain that one? =) There are no spring bars. On the 5517 they are "soldered" in place so a NATO is the only option. I just think the 5517 is one of the better (and more accurate) looking mid line ETA reps. Of course many people here will preach to buy a MBW for quality, I have hesitations about spending that much on a rep till I really know which one I want. Right know I feel it would be a 1665 or a 1680. I am excited about the new Silix models even though the bezel is wrong. I figure in time the guys here that mod will let us know how to correct that. I do know that about $200 will get you the correct style bezel, wheather it will fit or not is another question. I have the ROL223 on the way along with a riveted band. Can't wait to get it! I don't really expect to pull off wearing a rep that represents a $10000+ gen, I'm just a fan of Rolex and I will never be able to afford a gen "Bond". I have owned a gen 5513 and I kick myself everyday for getting rid of it years ago. At the time I considered that a "Bond" because of the Roger Moore era of 007 movies. Edited July 30, 2007 by predfan2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 The 'springbars' in the 5517 are solid & permanently welded between the lugs (they cannot be removed), so there is no way to fit the end pieces required to attach a bracelet to the case. Straps like the Nato are weaved in between the case and the bars, which is why they fit and why you never see these watches with a bracelet (unless someone drilled out the lugs, removed the bars and fit standard springbars in their place). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predfan2001 Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 (edited) The 'springbars' in the 5517 are solid & permanently welded between the lugs (they cannot be removed), so there is no way to fit the end pieces required to attach a bracelet to the case. Straps like the Nato are weaved in between the case and the bars, which is why they fit and why you never see these watches with a bracelet (unless someone drilled out the lugs, removed the bars and fit standard springbars in their place). I actually thought getting a 5517 (since the dial looks pretty accurate) and attempting to remove the "T" very carefully. If that was successful I would then swap the movement into a standard vintage rep case with an oyster band and install a new set of Mercedes style Sub hands. Viola, a 5513. Just kind of pricey but what are the options. A MBW 5513s dial is a little too yellow in my opinion. If I went that route the vintage case would require cg mods and a gen tube/crown. Sounds pretty drastic I know, but I'm running out of options. Edited July 30, 2007 by predfan2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cableguy Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 i wish i could find a mid range Tudor military sub with the snow flake hands =/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kollektor Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I know that model well :-) While it has no dearth of flaws, it's a daily beater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swemoose Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Can't wait for Angus to release the new 16600 with correct thickness and HE valve...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005SUBMARINER Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 oh i bought my so called perfect eta seadweller for $169 free s&h from pual i just replaced the crown & tube with gen & she's good to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cableguy Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 ^ was that one also already tapped for the correct size tap? did you have to retap it? i heard the Sub;s use the same tap size as gen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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