robideaux Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 (edited) here are some genuine shots first off: (look at that thick crown guard) and now the three different reps: #1 from joshua: pros: nice dial. cons: wrong case back, polished thin crown guard(G and H series are brushed and noticably thicker). #2 from joshua: pros: nice dial, nice case back. cons: thin crown guard, wrong movement (asian auto instead of 6497 manual). and now #3, from davidsen: pros: nice thicker crown and crown guard(just like G and H series). cons: wrong case back, wrong dial (should not be tritium sandwich style). between the three of these, i think we have the perfect 005 rep. total cost to purchase all three and compile them together (all with asian movements): josh 1 - $178 josh 2 - $108 davids - $270 (based off price of PVD watch with CN 6497-2) total - $556 im thinking of doing it. i hope the casebacks are swapable. anyone else wanna try? Edited May 13, 2006 by robideaux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 it will not be that expencive since you can sell the parts that are left overs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilboBaggins Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Best of luck...will be a fun and rewarding project Hope it all goes well Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegra Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Check Andrews Pam 005... its a must .. case back is very good. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasigi Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 I asked Joshua about this a while back, he said the casebacks aren't swappable between the manual (#1) and the auto (#2) versions. K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robideaux Posted May 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 I asked Joshua about this a while back, he said the casebacks aren't swappable between the manual (#1) and the auto (#2) versions. K. why is that, did he say they threaded different? or maybe he just didn't want to do any special orders that required swapping parts? my auto gmt seems to have the same threading as my manual wind pams. i wonder why this auto case back would be an exception? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 I like the idea, but as i got several ongoing projects at this time i will pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasigi Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 The answer was that the two different models are made by two different manufacturers and that the casebacks are not interchangable. K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 The casebacks are swappable. I have a Diavidsen caseback here which fits my PAM 28, 111 cases (same maker) no problem. Real problem is with Davidsens cases. The dials are desingned to fit exactly into a recess in the case. This perfectly centralises them so the clamps only hold the movt in place not position. Davidsens dials are 1mm bigger in dia so this means that to fit his dial in existing cases means removing that mm (not a massive problem but not good). But to fit exisiting dials to his case is a problem as the dial is too small for the recess which means that the position is held by stem and clamps and these will move in time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robideaux Posted May 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 @ Kegra, you are right, andrew's new 005 case back is sweet. his inexpensive pams come with acrylic crystal unfortunately. i am inquiring as to wether or not davidsen is willing to supply these nice thick looking crown guards and/or crown. if we throw that on andrew's new 005 and pop in a sapphire crystal, we are almost there. i also remember another member wondering if the black paint on adrew's caseback would rub off with some thinner. what do you all think? here is andrews 005: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasigi Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 The casebacks are swappable. I have a Diavidsen caseback here which fits my PAM 28, 111 cases (same maker) no problem. It wasn't the Davidsen caseback I was talking about, but that one's wrong anyway. BTW, did you get the email I sent on the 2nd, Mark? K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 David will sell parts a la carte I believe. I've contacted him with inquiries for parts only, and he is always more than willing to do what he can to assist I'd also like to add- David is an excellent resource and a valuable asset to the community. Top notch service and value for the money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 If we are talking closer to genuine. the problem with the black painted caseback H series, is that in the H series, there are 1200 made, and not 1000 made, and that kills it a bit. I have acquired a caseback with no paint, G series, and think that I am on my way there. along with recessed pin fix and relume by Zigs, and a good new thicker crown when Palp's project finalized, I think we may have the ultimate 005. Someday I hope.....that I can post that photo. Have a good weekend fellas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegra Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 i also remember another member wondering if the black paint on adrew's caseback would rub off with some thinner. what do you all think? here is andrews 005: Yes i have one in my hands and the black paint can easisly taken off... I think the starting point is Andrews Pam 005. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 it is always nice to see people doing projects.... hope everything goes well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 To my eye, David's guards are not quite there yet--but much closer than the ones the makers are putting on the H series reps. If Davidsen will sell the guards, the cheapest way to do this would be to buy Jos's rep and then slap a davidsen guard and new plap crown on it then send it to The Zigmeister for a relume, pin fix, and paint removal. Won't fool a single paneristi because of the caseback error and the "A''s but it's close enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasigi Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 I'm especially interested in this because I have Jos's rep, it's been relumed and had the cannon pin fixed already! K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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