dadog13 Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 this post is what we needed all this time... great read.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exper Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Fantastic tutorial, I still wouldn't give it a whirl myself though. Although it has to be said I am worryingly looking at different leathers now and thinking "Wow that would make a great strap" - gets on the nerve of the gf but its good to know that belts are suitable too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 I seem to miss any real difference between the one-needle and the two-needles method. If it is, please would anyone explain it? Difference jumps to the eye. If you use only one-needle the line of the thread is not perfectly continuous neither above neither under the strap. If you contemporarily use two-needles with an only thread (a needle to a head a needle to the opposite head of the thread) the line of the thread will be continuous both above that under the strap. Trusted my father and my mother were tailors and I had an industry of wrappings and suits for man and for woman. Thanks sssurfer !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted June 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 As for the side painting, I see that a Don's strap here has sort of a gum/rubber paint. This is some kind of sealant, but I dont have any idea what kind of Although it has to be said I am worryingly looking at different leathers now and thinking "Wow that would make a great strap" - gets on the nerve of the gf but its good to know that belts are suitable too hehe one day I caught myself staring at some girl purse in the subway thinking what a great strap would it be Difference jumps to the eye. If you use only one-needle the line of the thread is not perfectly continuous neither above neither under the strap. If you contemporarily use two-needles with an only thread (a needle to a head a needle to the opposite head of the thread) the line of the thread will be continuous both above that under the strap. Trusted my father and my mother were tailors and I had an industry of wrappings and suits for man and for woman. This is a good advice, Ill try that next time. btw do You know anything aboud the curved needle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 (edited) This is a good advice, Ill try that next time. Use of an only needle : Resulted only with a needle : Use of two needles with the same thread : Resulted with two needles with the same thread : A strap realized from me : Thanks for the trust pubus !!! Edited June 12, 2006 by MAHLER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Difference jumps to the eye. If you use only one-needle the line of the thread is not perfectly continuous neither above neither under the strap. If you contemporarily use two-needles with an only thread (a needle to a head a needle to the opposite head of the thread) the line of the thread will be continuous both above that under the strap. Trusted my father and my mother were tailors and I had an industry of wrappings and suits for man and for woman. Thanks sssurfer !!! Thanks to you, Mahler, and even more for your last post with those great pics! But, just in order to better understand: I am still missing what makes the two methods differ in their results. On the following (oversimplified) picture, I would guess that the overall result should be the same. So, what makes them different is possibly that by the 2-needles method one can apply a more simmetrical tension? Or what? BTW, congrats on your self-made strap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted June 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 (edited) I am still missing what makes the two methods differ in their results. useing two needles same time, same hole etc prevents You from thread crossing, I mean, if You use one needle theres awlays a risk that you can put the needle ine the second turn of stitching trough the thread line you stitched before and the line may look messed a bit. And I quess the stitching goes faster btw, great post sssurfer Thanks again for great input into this thread Mahler!! that strap does look nice!! Edited June 12, 2006 by pubus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Thanks again for great input into this thread Mahler!! that strap does look nice!! Thanks to you (but the best contribution is yours) !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 (edited) I am still missing what makes the two methods differ in their results. On the following (oversimplified) picture, I would guess that the overall result should be the same. In apparenza i metodi sembrano uguali. All'occhio purtroppo no (sapessi quanto l'occhio di uno che cuce può accorgersi di particolari piccoli piccoli a differenza di uno che non cuce). I vantaggi di due aghi sono : 1) la velocità di esecuzione del lavoro; 2) la tensione nel filo che è come quella di una macchina da cucire; 3) la possibilità di usare anche un filo di colore diverso se usi due pelli diverse; 4) non allarghi il buco già fatto se usi un ago di dimensioni più piccole dell'altro. Il mio è solo un suggerimento sssurfer, non ho detto che il mio metodo è migliore di quello di pubus. è solo il mio metodo per fare cinturini, portachiavi, mini borsette ecc. Grazie ancora per i complimenti (ps. spero mi farai sapere cos'altro ti piace del cd)!!!! In appearance the methods seem equal, but to the eye unfortunately no (I knew how much the eye of one that sews can acknowledge small small details unlike one whom it doesn't sew). The advantages of two needles are : 1) the speed of execution of the work; 2) the tension in the thread as that of a sewing machine; 3) the possibility to also use a thread of different color if you use two different skins (for example a brown out and a clear color inside) ; 4) you don't already widen the hole fact if you use a needle of smaller dimensions of the other; Mine is only a suggestion sssurfer, I have not said that my method is better than pubus. my method is only "my method" to make "my" straps, "my" keyring & "my" mini bags etc. Thanks still for the compliments!!! Edited June 13, 2006 by MAHLER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Thanks for your answers, Mahler! (As for the CD, it keeps on getting better and better . PM will follow as soon as I'll have a more complete listening at it -- it is huge!!! -- and as soon as I'll have something for you, too ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Your nice idea of a cardboard for the holes makes me wonder if it does exist somewhere sort of a pin line (metal pins lined up and firm at a metal bar like a comb or rake) that can be pushed all at once by the hammer. A simple project. I draw it because I don't have time to personally realize it. I hope can be of some utilities. You can use of the wood or of the pressed cardboard. The project foresees the creation of 2 outlines of the dimensions of the final strap. On one of them you practise some holes corresponding to those of the seams. To use screw, nails or nails for tapestry : To put the nails in the holes : You overlap the outline without holes above that with holes and nails. With the screws fixed both the outlines : The End Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Great idea, Mahler, and a great step forward from punching every single hole individually with no guideline! Just two clarifications needed: Do you mean it just as an improved version of the cardboard outline, or are the nails rather supposed to be fixed to the outline so they can be punched / pressed all at once just by punching / pressing the outline? How can the screws holding the two outlines together not affect the strap? I seem to understand that they should be placed beyond the strap's ends, correct? Uhm... I feel some great project is taking shape here... keep up with the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 How can the screws holding the two outlines together not affect the strap? I seem to understand that they should be placed beyond the strap's ends, correct? The screws can centrally be situated to the beginning and at the end of the piece in consistent position not to interfere with the nails. Obviously being a project on paper must have suited in base for the objective necessities that introduce him during the work. An improvement could be done foreseeing two screws without end to the sides to get a press auto-holeing. Do you mean it just as an improved version of the cardboard outline, or are the nails rather supposed to be fixed to the outline so they can be punched / pressed all at once just by punching / pressing the outline? I believe that in this case the choice is subjective. Uhm... I feel some great project is taking shape here... keep up with the good work! For me it would not be badly.... for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 For me it would not be badly.... for you? I think I've found what to think about as soon as I'll get rid of the cyclops thing... Oh, and besides of reluming, loose lever, and so on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted June 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) This is an indeed a great idea, but theres a one main disadvantage of it. As it is a pattern, you have no diverse in the stitching look. It will always be the same. But its still a great idea Edited June 14, 2006 by pubus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Pitt Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Nice project and great post. Here is a video showing construction for anyone interested it's from strapmasters : http://www.strapmasters.com/straps-panerai-video.html he is using two needles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 how it happened I have never not found this one....... This is amazing, and we canb clearly se the sealant to cover the edges there Now its only a matter of time, when we will know the thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 This is an indeed a great idea, but theres a one main disadvantage of it. As it is a pattern, you have no diverse in the stitching look. It will always be the same. But its still a great idea Thanks still. As every idea on the paper will have to be correct to the practical action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesDickens Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) If you want to do finished edges look no further than right Here! They also have great hand tools like this one here for punching multiple holes at once. Come on... Who loves ya!! Edited June 15, 2006 by CharlesDickens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) If you want to do finished edges look no further than right Here! They also have great hand tools like this one here for punching multiple holes at once. Come on... Who loves ya!! Edited June 15, 2006 by MAHLER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
episaacs Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Now I'm semi obsessed with making straps.... THANKS A LOT Seriously, I've been taking apart old leather items and experimenting making straps according to your excellent article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 What a totally superb thread this has been - big thanks all of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiowas Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 my diy strap is ready minus the stiching will post some pic later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 my diy strap is ready minus the stiching will post some pic later Impatient to see !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 @pubus....I promised to give you some links that could improve your strap making skills... here are some useful links... How to - guide tips for hand sewing leather preparing for leather craft project key techniques for working with leather guide hope this links will be useful to you guys... and if it will be of any use I am expecting from all of you (that will find it useful) a free leather strap! OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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