woody Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 greetings guys and gals, I am getting ready to ship off my FM Casablanca for some TLC to the master up in Canada, I was wondering if there's anyone that has owned a gen FM before, or an expert when it comes to FM. I would like to know if FM uses C1 or C3 for their superluminova. I am confused, some of the ones I've seen on the internet is kind of green, and some others are kind of white. anyone that have some knowledge on this, I would greatly appreciate it. This is the watch that I was referening to. Casablanca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 archibald is as knowledgeable as they come in all thing Franck Muller. I think it is C3, but let's see what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellomen Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 There are some members that have genuine FM dials in their reps, so these members could have an idea... unfortunately i don't have a clue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted January 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 bump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Oopps, missed this thread. The answer is that Muller has changed the lume over time and that it also depends on dial color--I have 4X casablanca dials 2 black, a salmon, and a white. The lume varies between them. One black looks almost all C1 the other mostly C3, the while looks all C3, the salmon almost all C1. Age may be a factor, but the good news is if muller really has changed the lume as it looks like they have, you can never get called out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegrasser Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 When I look at this very expensive brand I say to myself, "It's a watch" and just shrug my shoulders. What am I missing? I just don't see anything special about an FM that is worth thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTR Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 George, I'm in the same boat as you... I think the "value" comes from his name recognition/expertise... while FM claims to have created the case design by perfecting the arc of each surface, it simply looks like the bastard grand-child of a Gruen Curvex (where he stole the name) and Omega Tonneau... lots of time in his movements though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Of course there's no intrinsic value to a standard Muller (or a Panerai, Brietling, IWC, or any other mass produced watch that uses ETA movements) that makes it worth even a fraction of it's MSRP in terms of labor and materials. The value is from brand cachet and brand cashet alone. You guys have been around here long enough to know that. You could make the argument that a say, a 13k 2892 powered muller will at least tend to be made out of gold making it's intrisnic value much higher than a steel 7750 powered PAM 212 that sells for the same price, but that's neither here nor there. What we like ispurely a matter of taste and what we pay is purely a matter of the market. The great thing about reps is that we non-hedge-fund managers don't have to worry. We can buy super-accurate reps of whatever ETA poiwered watches we like to our heart's content, never paying a second's attention to whether some marketing consultant of some big european luxury goods conglomerate is yanking our chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry563 Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Like all high end reps the profit margin is astronomical. I find FM a very classy watch...very distinguished from the std round or square traditional watches. I own a FM Conquistador that I bought from Joshua and its an eye catcher for sure. There is a major issue with the band (unfinished sides of the end links) but aside from this its a strong runner and looks like the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff g Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I have owned my Casablanca for at least 4 years. I only wear it once or twice a year, but wouldn't think of selling it. My lume, what there is of it seems to be whiter than it does green. As to the cost of the gen FM's....beautiful swiss watches...like many other beautiful swiss watches, cost a lot of money. I rank the Casablanca SS with black dial, right up there with PP and AP dress watches for sure. Looks like a Genta design to me. Elegant...but classic sport dial and bracelet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTR Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Looks like Genta alright... Just like Genta RIPPED OFF the ROLEX Viceroy, FM RIPPED OFF the GRUEN Curvex and put an Omega Tonneau dial on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt.watch.obsessive Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 "Looks like a Genta design to me" ...Hey, let's not say things we can't take back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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