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jeez, ok....

zeravince 3 September 2007 12:07 AM test my ss daytona

rolexto9.jpg

daunwaun 3 September 2007 12:09 AM im sorry what??

roadcarver 3 September 2007 01:30 AM I guess its a test posting....

BiG JeEzY 3 September 2007 02:03 AM Sure, if you would let me look at it and Ill be glad to test it for you!

:rofl:

:justkiddi

Its a great and beautiful watch, enjoy it in good health!

jwball 3 September 2007 04:16 AM I think it's a replica and he's asking if we can tell the difference.

MAXI DIAL 3 September 2007 04:19 AM No no no guys!! he is trying to say TASTE my daytona :dummy:

Destroy 3 September 2007 04:21 AM Definitely a fake.

zeravince 3 September 2007 04:34 AM i'm testing to post my rolex picture, i already try to post another pic but failed, is it a fake? I get a certificate and case when I bought it

zeravince 3 September 2007 04:59 AM another pic

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directioneng 3 September 2007 06:18 AM Well, I know that there is no substitute for holding a Rolex while you assess it but if that is a fake then Rolex have a serious problem. From what I can see it looks genuine IMO.

qwackers 3 September 2007 09:04 AM Fake............

At least 3 things tell me that...........:dummy:

roadcarver 3 September 2007 10:19 AM I'm not an expert on Daytonas... Zeravince, did you get this from an AD or used from private sale?

EvEr34 3 September 2007 10:29 AM oh boy

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 10:33 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Destroy (Post 293104) Definitely a fake. Quote: Originally Posted by qwackers (Post 293193) Fake............

At least 3 things tell me that...........:dummy: I cannot see WHY this should be a fake! THIS one looks like the real McCoy to me.

Lovely pics, btw! :cheers:

qwackers 3 September 2007 10:43 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Spacedweller (Post 293255) I cannot see WHY this should be a fake! THIS one looks like the real McCoy to me.

Lovely pics, btw! :cheers: You need to know where and what to look at......................:thumbsup:

zeravince 3 September 2007 10:52 AM i bought it from private seller in Indonesia. it cost Rp 97.000.000. 1US Dollar = Rp9500, if you don't mind please tell me the fake part, cause i really worrie about it

Letsgodiving 3 September 2007 10:56 AM I think if you are going to tell someone their watch is fake you should tell them what you are basing that on.

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 10:57 AM Quote: Originally Posted by qwackers (Post 293259) You need to know where and what to look at......................:thumbsup: I think I know about telling fakes from real ones, thank you:

SS DAYTONA THREAD. CLICK TO READ!

:read:

So please do tell me.

:cheers:

wandyprawira 3 September 2007 11:00 AM Quote: Originally Posted by zeravince (Post 293261) i bought it from private seller in Indonesia. it cost Rp 97.000.000. 1US Dollar = Rp9500, if you don't mind please tell me the fake part, cause i really worrie about it Kalau penasaran bawa aja ke RSC di Jl. Sudirman minta cek disana tentang keasliannya. Mereka lebih tahu. :thumbsup:

zeravince 3 September 2007 11:01 AM this is my first rolex and it will be sad if I got fake rolex with original price

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zeravince 3 September 2007 11:11 AM what is the fake part? please do tell me Stef_Call 3 September 2007 11:13 AM Quote: Originally Posted by qwackers (Post 293259) You need to know where and what to look at...................... :thumbsup: Well go ahead please tell us. We are all ears..... and eyes :chuckle:

qwackers 3 September 2007 11:17 AM In my opinion the crown guards look mishaped... The sub dial hands look to long.... and in can make out the etching at 6.0clock........ These 3 things are the coman flaws in the 7750 modified Daytona fakes still......... This is what i see in the pics you posted............... However,it may just be the pics,size quality etc.... Id get it it authenticated defenetly

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 11:28 AM Quote: Originally Posted by zeravince (Post 293026) rolexto9.jpg Quote: Originally Posted by qwackers (Post 293286) In my opinion the crown guards look mishaped... The sub dial hands look to long.... and in can make out the etching at 6.0clock........ These 3 things are the coman flaws in the 7750 modified Daytona fakes still......... This is what i see in the pics you posted............... However,it may just be the pics,size quality etc.... Id get it it authenticated defenetly :[censored]: Here is a pic to compare: daytonampix.jpg The "White Face" is the REAL thing and SO IS THE BLACK! I SUGGEST YOU DON'T OPEN YOUR MOUTH BEFORE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! zeravince 3 September 2007 11:29 AM another pic rol1ko0.jpg zeravince 3 September 2007 11:32 AM I will bring my daytona as soon as posible to Rolex Service Center in my country...hope my DAYTONA is REAL DAYTONA

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 11:33 AM Don't worry, you have the real thing. :cheers:

zeravince 3 September 2007 11:35 AM thanks for white dial daytona pic, make me can compare it with my rolex.. I think there is no different with my daytona (except the colour) Letsgodiving 3 September 2007 11:36 AM The crown guards look like they don't extend out as far as the other pic and are somewhat more rounded but I'm certainly no expert just compaing the pics.

cjj14u 3 September 2007 11:39 AM I say it's the real deal....

qwackers 3 September 2007 11:40 AM Hey...dont be having a go.......:thumbsdow When i was looking at them last year...i did a lot af studying of the fakes to be sure i knew what to look out for....those 3 things i mentioned are still ways to spot them......... like i said.....it could be the pics.....

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 12:04 PM Sorry, Qwackers, but if YOU bought an SS Daytona for that kind of money and presented it proudly here, and many then cry out "FAKE", how would you feel?? The pics presented are very clear and nice close-ups. Had we been presented some lousy pics, blurred and from too far away, an "alarm bell" would have rung with me, too. If THIS is a fake, it is the BEST I have seen todate. Anyway, it could be interesting to see its box + papers (and the other accessories).

EvEr34 3 September 2007 12:08 PM Gotta agree....nothing about that watch looks fake to me. Congrats on your purchase and enjoy it....i hope we have not ruined your weekend!!!!:smokin:

asq69 3 September 2007 12:09 PM Hmm, I think you should go check it as soon as possible. The next question is: what will you do if it is a fake? If it is still under guarantee from the seller (which I believe it is), I think you should take back the watch and ask your money back (97 million IDR phew...) but I don't now whether it is better to tell the seller that it is fake thing he sold or you find other reason, and if it's a fake could you please inform us where did you buy it, the seller (and the store) should be blacklisted and informed to other Rolex fans in Indonesia. If it turns out to be original real Rolex, then...please PM me and we can have cups of coffee to celebrate it :cheers:

qwackers 3 September 2007 12:19 PM I agree Spacedweller........ I apologise if it has caused angst to you Zeravince...........wasnt ment to.......:cheers: Youd be surprised at how advanced they are now though... The latest ones are using a 7750 @ 21,600vbh which has been mobified up to a 7750b1 @ 28.800vbh...to cope with the strain on the movment due to the sub dial configuration....... Id still say as i would with any non A.D purchase.....get it authenticated..................... :thumbsup: Il post links if anyone wishes to be shocked at how advanced thay are now and hopfully it will make us all the more aware ...................

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 12:40 PM Better not post links to fake Rolex sites here. There has been much discussion lately about not posting about fakes here at all, and such a link would look like we somehow endorsed fakes. Just my 2 cents. :cheers:

daunwaun 3 September 2007 12:49 PM i do not believe it is a fake

daunwaun 3 September 2007 12:49 PM and great pics by the way!!!

Rawhyde 3 September 2007 12:55 PM That is an absolutely beautiful Daytona. The SS/Black Face is my favorite version! Congratulations and let me extend a hearty welcome to the greatest Rolex forum on the web!

Craig daunwaun 3 September 2007 12:58 PM Quote: Originally Posted by qwackers (Post 293331) I agree Spacedweller........ I apologise if it has caused angst to you Zeravince...........wasnt ment to.......:cheers: Youd be surprised at how advanced they are now though... The latest ones are using a 7750 @ 21,600vbh which has been mobified up to a 7750b1 @ 28.800vbh...to cope with the strain on the movment due to the sub dial configuration....... Id still say as i would with any non A.D purchase.....get it authenticated..................... :thumbsup: Il post links if anyone wishes to be shocked at how advanced thay are now and hopfully it will make us all the more aware ................... You seem to know a lot about fakes eh??? But im not going to open a can of worms!!! This watch is REAL!!!

zeravince 3 September 2007 12:59 PM big thanks for removing my worries.... I can sleep well tonight. here another pic of my daytona daytona1oh5.jpg tiny hand daytona3hf7.jpg daunwaun 3 September 2007 01:00 PM very nice pictures!!!

zeravince 3 September 2007 01:01 PM thanks for the welcome....LOVE THIS FORUM VERY MUCH

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 01:04 PM NICE pics, and still looks like the REAL thing to me! :thumbsup: I noticed you have the paper certificate a015.gif Also there is no "ROLEXROLEX" branding on the chapter ring a015.gif So this cannot be one of the most recent Daytonas since they would have the CCC (Credit Card Certificate) plus the branding on the chapter ring. What serial is it? I mean: What LETTER is in front of the serial number? But still no worries, on the CONTRARY! You got one WITHOUT that dreaded chapter ring branding, and IMHO the old-style paper certificate is just "charming". :cheers:

daunwaun 3 September 2007 01:06 PM lol i like that chapter ring zeravince 3 September 2007 01:11 PM I bought my daytona at 10 September 2006 with a D series. what is the different compare to daytona which have "ROLEXROLEX" and what is CCC? sorry, my knowledge about rolex is very poor and of course with my english , hope you still can understand my post. It's a pleasure for me gaining a knowledge about rolex from all of you

qwackers 3 September 2007 01:15 PM Very nice fresh pics Zeravince.................... :thumbsup: Once again appologys ...............:cheers: SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 01:17 PM A D-series is EXPECTED to have: NO "ROLEXROLEX" chapter ring branding NO CCC, but a paper certificate. So all is just FINE :thumbsup: :cheers: BTW: the chapter ring inscription is a brading of the words "ROLEX" alternating with the Rolex Coronet (crown logo) and the serial number engraved at 6 o'clock on the ring. Here is a photo of the the chapter ring branding, however on the new Sub OP COSC (I have no pic of the Daytona with chapter ring inscription "lying around"): 14060203.jpg zeravince 3 September 2007 01:26 PM thanks a lot for the information, adding more knowledge about rolex, I will update my pic if I got new inspiration, for qwackers : it's ok,but you make my heart down when I read your post...thanks GOD it's real daytona

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 01:40 PM Also, you can see variations of the Daytona. Here is a Daytona, Z-series that has: Chapter ring inscription Green sticker (not the clear case back sticker) Paper certificate This will be an early to mid Z-series since the latest Z-series would have the CLEAR case back sticker + CCC. Still the real thing. http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Daytona-11...QQcmdZViewItem :cheers:

Welshwatchman 3 September 2007 01:48 PM Of course it's genuine. If ever the fakes looked EXACTLY that good we are all in trouble (well, most of us).

padi56 3 September 2007 02:10 PM Quote: Originally Posted by qwackers (Post 293331) I agree Spacedweller........ I apologise if it has caused angst to you Zeravince...........wasnt ment to.......:cheers: Youd be surprised at how advanced they are now though... The latest ones are using a 7750 @ 21,600vbh which has been mobified up to a 7750b1 @ 28.800vbh...to cope with the strain on the movment due to the sub dial configuration....... Id still say as i would with any non A.D purchase.....get it authenticated..................... :thumbsup: Il post links if anyone wishes to be shocked at how advanced thay are now and hopfully it will make us all the more aware ................... First the Valjoux 7750 has always been a 28800 BPH movement since its introduction in 1974.Second the Valjoux 7750 movement will not work with the seconds sub dial configuration at the 6 O'Clock position ,only at the 9 Oclock position.Genuine Rolex chronographs with the cal 4130 will have the working sub seconds at the 6 O'Clock position.And the watch is fine and looks genuine to me.

Ironstark 3 September 2007 02:19 PM From what I can see in your pictures, it looks good to me too :thumbsup: It looks just like mine :agree: Have to aggree with Padi56 with regard to the 7750 particulars also. Enjoy your watch and welcome to the TRF.

qwackers 3 September 2007 03:09 PM Yes Padi56.....you are correct........ :thumbsup: My post should have said..............(Quoted from a Folex site)............ (Japanese constructed replication of the ETA (Valjoux) 7750b1 caliber 25 jewel movement running @ 28,800vbh)......... Sorry for my error..... ANYWAY.....Im glad its the real thing..........:cheers:

LouCan 3 September 2007 03:46 PM I don't understand what all the apologies are for. He came on here and asked if it was fake. People on here telling you its real shouldn't put your mind at ease, it would make me go out and have it checked out from an AD or Rolex themselves. Its easy to spot a bad or cheap fake. But now they are making such good ones its scary. No one on this site can truly tell you its REAL. When you have to ask the question "Is it Real?" you already have a problem . Have it looked at by someone who really knows and will open up the back and check the movement. Good Luck

EvEr34 3 September 2007 04:50 PM Quote: Originally Posted by LouCan (Post 293488) I don't understand what all the apologies are for. He came on here and asked if it was fake. People on here telling you its real shouldn't put your mind at ease, it would make me go out and have it checked out from an AD or Rolex themselves. Its easy to spot a bad or cheap fake. But now they are making such good ones its scary. No one on this site can truly tell you its REAL. When you have to ask the question "Is it Real?" you already have a problem . Have it looked at by someone who really knows and will open up the back and check the movement. Good Luck don't remember him asking if his watch was real or not.

Hellcat65 3 September 2007 05:03 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Welshwatchman (Post 293394) Of course it's genuine. If ever the fakes looked EXACTLY that good we are all in trouble (well, most of us). Obviously youve not seen the fakes lately than........

Welshwatchman 3 September 2007 05:31 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Hellcat65 (Post 293525) Obviously youve not seen the fakes lately than........ I have not seen ANY fake that looks genuine to my scrutinizing eye at close quarters. Saying that I am not constantly on the look for them. If the clever chinese have finally cracked it in recent weeks then I would be interested to see a close up of the watch if you obviously have this information.

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 05:39 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Welshwatchman (Post 293535) I have not seen ANY fake that looks genuine to my scrutinizing eye at close quarters. Saying that I am not constantly on the look for them. If the clever chinese have finally cracked it in recent weeks then I would be interested to see a close up of the watch if you obviously have this information. Yeah! :thumbsup: postpics.gif of those poo.gif FAKES.

jjs 3 September 2007 06:00 PM 1 Attachment(s) Quote: Originally Posted by LouCan (Post 293488) I don't understand what all the apologies are for. He came on here and asked if it was fake. People on here telling you its real shouldn't put your mind at ease, it would make me go out and have it checked out from an AD or Rolex themselves. Its easy to spot a bad or cheap fake. But now they are making such good ones its scary. No one on this site can truly tell you its REAL. When you have to ask the question "Is it Real?" you already have a problem . Have it looked at by someone who really knows and will open up the back and check the movement. Good Luck Poor Guy! Here he is posting pics of his new pride and joy only to be shot down. By the way, he never asked about authenticating his watch - he was TESTING a photo upload. Great watch zeravince - I guess some sensitivity going on with a not too recent poster showing off his fake daytona. Here is a shot of mine to compare :agree: I know I haven't posted anymore new pics but as i sit here on my 'white porcelain throne' (sorry too much info) it was much easier to grab from photobucket than my camera. Once again - great watch!! (unbiased view:chuckle:) :cheers:

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 06:09 PM Exactly, JJS, that was what I was saying earlier. Anyway, as in this case, I am happy when I can say what I see and tell the member that I see a genuine Rolex. On the other hand, I am also happy to say if I see a FAKE Rolex. Either way, I state my opinion.

EvEr34 3 September 2007 06:11 PM i'm sure our last culprit had to do with the responses he received. I think we need to be more careful. I mean this weekend must of been a long one for him with all these doubts. I can just imagine that sinking feeling. If you are not sure about the authenticity of someones rollie it might be good idea to hold back and let more experienced collectors take it up with the owner. Hell, could also private message one the in house experts if you have doubts. Some are pretty obvious but this one did not deserve the scrutiny it recieved. Just a tought.

Destroy 3 September 2007 06:13 PM Has anyone tweaked that maybe, just MAYBE - said poster is extracting information on what the general rolex wearing public believes constitutes a "fake". And with that information will go and and modify their production line accordingly? Think about about it.

EvEr34 3 September 2007 06:16 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Destroy (Post 293552) Has anyone tweaked that maybe, just MAYBE - said poster is extracting information on what the general rolex wearing public believes constitutes a "fake". And with that information will go and and modify their production line accordingly? Think about about it. I thought about it and all I can say is....Come on.

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 06:20 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Destroy (Post 293552) Has anyone tweaked that maybe, just MAYBE - said poster is extracting information on what the general rolex wearing public believes constitutes a "fake". And with that information will go and and modify their production line accordingly? Think about about it. Quote: Originally Posted by EvEr34 (Post 293554) I thought about it and all I can say is....Come on. :agree: yes, c'mon! Even if we posted 1,000 super macro pics of REAL Daytonas here, fakers would NEVER get them really right. There just aint a thing like the REAL thing. :cheers:

Destroy 3 September 2007 06:23 PM ever wonder why 99% of ebayers WON'T discuss their items let alone post them to indonesia?

Destroy 3 September 2007 06:25 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Destroy (Post 293560) ever wonder why 99% of ebayers WON'T discuss their items let alone post them to indonesia? Geez, I'm fired up today eh? :banghead:

Destroy 3 September 2007 06:25 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Destroy (Post 293560) ever wonder why 99% of ebayers WON'T discuss their items let alone post them to indonesia? Geez, I'm fired up today eh? :dummy:

EvEr34 3 September 2007 06:40 PM No I never wondered....fill me in

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 06:46 PM :banghead: Again a negative turn. I am fed up with hearing about and seeing fakes. The poor threadstarter showed as a REAL Daytona, so why this :[censored]:? I am outa this thread. :bye:

EvEr34 3 September 2007 06:54 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Spacedweller (Post 293580) :banghead: Again a negative turn. I am fed up with hearing about and seeing fakes. The poor threadstarter showed as a REAL Daytona, so why this :[censored]:? I am outa this thread. :bye: Same here

jjs 3 September 2007 07:03 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Destroy (Post 293552) Has anyone tweaked that maybe, just MAYBE - said poster is extracting information on what the general rolex wearing public believes constitutes a "fake". And with that information will go and and modify their production line accordingly? Think about about it. :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking::thinking::thinking: :lol: I can see it - the R+D dept in china hunched over their computers looking for possible threads on forums or just maybe it might be more cost effective to have actual models of the real watches to copy. Sorry.

jjs 3 September 2007 07:12 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Destroy (Post 293563) Geez, I'm fired up today eh? :dummy: :worship: Anyway - once again great photos zeravince. hope to see u around. Pity about all the negativity because u certainly don't smell of :[censored]: Post more pics because u look pretty good with the camera. :thumbsup: Cheers! :bye:

Green Arrow 3 September 2007 07:18 PM Quote: Originally Posted by zeravince (Post 293274) this is my first rolex and it will be sad if I got fake rolex with original price I think the guy who said it is a fake is just kidding, and not such a nice joke at that. You notice that he doesn't tell you why he thinks it is a fake. I've owned at least one Daytona, and have looked at many, and I can't see anything that tells me yours is a fake. Plus, Spacedweller is very knowledgeable and seems to agree. If you are greatly concerned, go to a Rolex dealer, and have them check the movement to make certain yours is authentic. I remember now why I overpay for my Rolexes at authorized dealers. Much easier to sleep at night!

Letsgodiving 3 September 2007 07:18 PM Quote: Originally Posted by EvEr34 (Post 293550) i'm sure our last culprit had to do with the responses he received. I think we need to be more careful. I mean this weekend must of been a long one for him with all these doubts. I can just imagine that sinking feeling. If you are not sure about the authenticity of someones rollie it might be good idea to hold back and let more experienced collectors take it up with the owner. Hell, could also private message one the in house experts if you have doubts. Some are pretty obvious but this one did not deserve the scrutiny it recieved. Just a tought. I agree. I think there is lesson to be learned here.

SPACE-DWELLER 3 September 2007 07:28 PM Quote: Originally Posted by YachtmasterTT (Post 293602) Plus, Spacedweller is very knowledgeable and seems to agree. Thanks, but I am not really. I know a little there and a little there. But what made me even MORE confident in the question about the authenticity of the specific SS Daytona in question was when IRONSTARK chimed in. After all, HE should know, shouldn't he? He handles Rolex watches every friggin day. The thread should have stopped with his post. PERIOD! :cheers:

daunwaun 3 September 2007 09:18 PM The Watch Is Real!!!! Thread Closed

EvEr34 3 September 2007 09:20 PM Quote: Originally Posted by daunwaun (Post 293710) The Watch Is Real!!!! Thread Closed Glad your here to end the thread! :thumbsup:

daunwaun 3 September 2007 09:37 PM im not high up in the hiarchy to end it but what the heck you can only kick a dead horse so many times!!!

wandyprawira 4 September 2007 01:21 AM Quote: Originally Posted by asq69 (Post 293321) Hmm, I think you should go check it as soon as possible. The next question is: what will you do if it is a fake? If it is still under guarantee from the seller (which I believe it is), I think you should take back the watch and ask your money back (97 million IDR phew...) but I don't now whether it is better to tell the seller that it is fake thing he sold or you find other reason, and if it's a fake could you please inform us where did you buy it, the seller (and the store) should be blacklisted and informed to other Rolex fans in Indonesia. If it turns out to be original real Rolex, then...please PM me and we can have cups of coffee to celebrate it :cheers:

wandyprawira 4 September 2007 01:32 AM Zeravince have just sent me a PM and tell me about the store where he purchased the Daytona. I know that store and they surely bring only the genuine Rolex (new and pre-owned). So, I guess no worries there, it must be a genuine one. Anyway, to make sure you can always bring it to RSC to have further check, Zeravince. I mean you've spent so much on the watch and a double check surely gives you peace of mind. :cheers: To Bo: Bo, do you remember when I sold my first Sub? This is the same store where Zeravince bought his Daytona. Good store in my opinion. Glad you help him about the issue and provide him a good sleep last night. :chuckle: :cheers:

padi56 4 September 2007 03:56 AM Quote: Originally Posted by qwackers (Post 293474) Yes Padi56.....you are correct........ :thumbsup: My post should have said..............(Quoted from a Folex site)............ (Japanese constructed replication of the ETA (Valjoux) 7750b1 caliber 25 jewel movement running @ 28,800vbh)......... Sorry for my error..... ANYWAY.....Im glad its the real thing..........:cheers: Unless you are are sure of your information,its best to keep opinions to yourself until you are sure its that simple. :thumbsup: There is a old saying that says too little knowledge can be very dangerous is the wrong hands.And always think before putting pen to paper in future. :thumbsup:

SPACE-DWELLER 4 September 2007 07:42 AM Quote: Originally Posted by wandyprawira (Post 293873) To Bo: Bo, do you remember when I sold my first Sub? This is the same store where Zeravince bought his Daytona. As if THAT was a "good reference"! :omg: THE DAYTONA MUST BE A FAKE THEN!! :dummy: :lol: :

bartmoon: :justkiddi :justkiddi :justkiddi

wandyprawira 4 September 2007 07:46 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Spacedweller (Post 293959) As if THAT was a "good reference"! :omg: THE DAYTONA MUST BE A FAKE THEN!!

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I only made it part way through (not enough patience to read the entire thread with all the duplications), but I thought it was similar to the countless threads I have read on TZ when someone purchases a new watch & then asks the $64k question: 'Is my watch fake?' The responses always run along the lines in this thread. Bottom line, for me, is the poster that said the only way to know for sure is to have it appraised by Rolex or a Rolex-trained watchmaker. Short of that, the watch looks totally legit to me & I doubt the owner has anything to worry about (other than tempting fate by posting these types of questions onto a public board).

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There's a member posting in that little bit of drama above named "daunwaun". I'd bet hard money it's the same assclown from here:

http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=16579&hl=

http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=15935&hl=

http://www.replicacollector.com/members/in...showtopic=27227

Feel free to call him out on it--that's probably the only place he hasn't been banned from yet. I'm surprised the asylum still allows him access to a computer...

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