Timepiece Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 (edited) Created: 12/02/2008 Edited: 16/02/2008 (added PO aligned hands pic) FIRST: PLEASE DON'T PM OR E-MAIL ME TO ASK ME HELP TO FIND OR RECOMMEND LUME FOR YOU. I ONLY INVESTIGATED THE SUBJECT FOR MY OWN PURPOSES AND INTEREST! Don't hesitate to reply this thread and give suggestions. There are lots of knowledgeable people in the forums who can (and want to) help. I am not an expert on the matter and have no connections to any brands or dealers that may appear in the watermarks of the pictures I used. I gathered all information below on the net. I still remember when I was a boy and got my first small Edited February 16, 2008 by Timepiece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
894tom Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I will say that a DSN with C3 superluminova not only looks great, but I can say that I can easily view my watch when I wake up in the morning (7a). This applies to the entire dial and the hands. Most of the good Pan reps coming out now have hands that can be seen in the morning. *Sidenote*The last light my watch sees (due to my profession) is around 6p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slai Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Please reply to this post with pics of your personal favourite ‘torches’!! (especially some nice PAM's please!) OK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalcranium Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Love that Monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corgi Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 This one sold me. I want this timepiece, just so I can watch it glow. The crown needs to be on the correct side, however. Yup. I want a glower too. My next watch... must glow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Very in depth Timepiece! Thanks for the write up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawo Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Light up the night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 great info Timepeice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 My Seikos: My Tritium watch (no animation or lume shots) courtesy of TWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Excellent writeup... Thnx!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Great writeup and detailed information. I can't imagine the hours you spent researching and documenting this, thanks for the contribution. RG Some of my favorites: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slai Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Great writeup and detailed information. I can't imagine the hours you spent researching and documenting this, thanks for the contribution. RG Some of my favorites: I don't even like sausage dials but seeing this makes me want to get one just to send to you for luming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdkno Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Just some food for thought in refrence to the SL being superior to the Tritium. Night use and especially when diving, SA / Superluminova is the clear winner for these reasons. Nobody who goes night diving or on night operations does so without a flashlight. A quick, several second, placement of the flashlight on the watch crystal will fully charge a Superluminova dial while having little or no effect on the Tritium dial because of the type of tritium sensitive phosphor used. This quick charge of the SA dial will make the watch with a good quality SA dial outglow the tritium dial for quite some time. Also research done indicates that there is no age limit on the SA vs 10 years or so for the Tritium. This would all depend on intended use. For example if you are going rec. diving or out at night for recreational reasons a 5 second blast of a flashlight on a watch would not be that big of an issue. On the other hand in any military type of role that 5 second blast which could probably be seen for miles, line of sight permitting, that 5 second blast is enough to give away your position. Night operations are handled quite differently, usually red light filters are used on flashlights, just the same most breifing areas, and the inside of transport planes/helicopters are also lit via red lights to maintain your adaptive nightvision, also a red light filter will provide you enough light to see what you are doing without it being spotted from a distance. Blasting a 100+ lumen white light would be enough to screw up your adaptive nightvision for a few min. Finally if tritium were the superior technology I would think you would find it on more of the high end and other watches. Are Rolex, Omega, Breitling, GP, Blancpain, Chopard, Seiko / Grand Seiko, etc., etc.. really that far off base? I don't think so. There again it goes back to different issues. Tritium tubes are not the most appealing thing to look at, not to mention the very design of the watch would have to be designed around the tubes from the begining. Someone goes to buy a tritium tube watch they know exactly what they are getting a dial with a bunch of tubes around it. Lets say Rolex decided to use it on their sub and Omega decided to use it on the Planet Ocean, other than the wording on the dial both would look nearly identical. Also you have to be honest, while all of the big player in watches market their watches to be hardened time keeping tools, and they very well may be, how many of them are worn by the people who could really put their dependability to the test? You will find more Timex and Casio's being used under harsh conditions than any Rolex, Omega, or any other high dollar watch. Again not trying to insult a very good and informative post just adding another angle to it. I think both tritium and SL have their respective place for telling time at night, such is too that they both could be considered superior to the other under different conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usil Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Nice write up. There is always a lot of confusion about this. One thing - Thanks for using my picture of the Breitling and key chain but for accuracy - the Breitling has just a standard lume and it is the key chain dangle that has the Tritium tube in it (Pink). Usil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timepiece Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) Just some food for thought in refrence to the SL being superior to the Tritium. This would all depend on intended use. Again not trying to insult a very good and informative post just adding another angle to it. I think both tritium and SL have their respective place for telling time at night, such is too that they both could be considered superior to the other under different conditions. Thanks jdkno for this informative reply and the other angle on the intended use of different types of lume!! Seems that the Military came a long way from hazardous phosphor/radium to tritium tubes that does not give away their most precious resources... Edited February 13, 2008 by Timepiece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravage Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hey there W! Damn fine writeup my friend! Well... it's the glow that led me to Panerai. (and you who showed me the way into reps) Here's my glowing pair.... DSN 183 and the 111H by Navigater. See ya saturday. G is really looking forward to it as well Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAVIGATER Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Hey there W! Damn fine writeup my friend! Well... it's the glow that led me to Panerai. (and you who showed me the way into reps) Here's my glowing pair.... DSN 183 and the 111H by Navigater. See ya saturday. G is really looking forward to it as well Alex That is a nice compare, but starnge that it not glows as may work... But as dicussed yesterday i will bring you 183 to the same glow in the dark Regards Navi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timepiece Posted February 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Hey there W! Damn fine writeup my friend! Well... it's the glow that led me to Panerai. (and you who showed me the way into reps) Here's my glowing pair.... DSN 183 and the 111H by Navigater. See ya saturday. G is really looking forward to it as well Alex THANX Ravage! ...The more souls in RWG, the more fun and topics right! Your DSN 183 with chocolate TWB strap will probably lead to a 'twin' for me somewhere soon CU !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggi Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Great writeup and detailed information. I can't imagine the hours you spent researching and documenting this, thanks for the contribution. RG Some of my favorites: This one is my favorite. One question for you guys, specially for The Zigmeister: I bought this watch, as I like the yellow accent thinkging it would lume like the cousteau above, but it does notl. Not even the yellow minute hand, but the hour hand does glow. (I don't understand why would they make one of the hand glow and not the other... what's the point). it does lume at the bottom of those stick markers and all the chrono hands. Any way, my question is, if it is possible to apply the lume to this one so the yellow accent and the minute hand would glow as well. other than that I love this watch. it would be great, the best of both worlds if this can be done. I'm hoping some of you guys can have answer to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 No discussion of lume is complete without mentioning the Guru of Lume, Kent Parks at Everestwatchworks.com. You can view his gallery here. The best OEM lume in my collection is on my Citizen ProMaster. It's bright enough to read by... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timepiece Posted February 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 The best OEM lume in my collection is on my Citizen ProMaster. It's bright enough to read by... Is it this great windable monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Is it this great windable monster Not that one, but rather the rare and elusive PMT56-2731 Duratect Titanium, Eco-Drive, perpetual calendar. Here's a picture from the lonestarwatches.com site: ...and here's Chris Moy's review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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