Ztech Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 So what's the difference between the PAM 127E and the PAM 127H? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slai Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Mainly that the H doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Mainly that the H doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 That's the biggest difference I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztech Posted February 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 ??? Then why does TWR have an add on the sale section stating that he's got one for sale??? This rep world keeps getting more confusing by the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Because they ran out of E movements. Now you can always throw the crown guard on the left hand side and call it a 217. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztech Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Ok, if they don't have any more E movements and the H doesn't exist (per Sali ^^^). Then what? Neither exists anymore??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 The E movement also known as the "panerai panerai" engraved movement was discontinued around the g series. It was replaced with simpler cotes de geneve finish. The 127 is an E series and it so it had the earlier movement. So the 127 with H movement is a fantasy watch. The 217 which is the left handed version of the Fiddy is an H series and comes with the later movement. So the H movement certainly exists and is what you see on clear back hand winds today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztech Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 The E movement also known as the "panerai panerai" engraved movement was discontinued around the g series. It was replaced with simpler cotes de geneve finish. The 127 is an E series and it so it had the earlier movement. So the 127 with H movement is a fantasy watch. The 217 which is the left handed version of the Fiddy is an H series and comes with the later movement. So the H movement certainly exists and is what you see on clear back hand winds today. Thanks for the clarification. I feel like I'm in intro to Greek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Welcome to PAM mania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztech Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Welcome to PAM mania! Thanks for the warm welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Thanks for the clarification. I feel like I'm in intro to Greek. You soon will be..... Greek straps from V that is Wait till you start getting Strap-itis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztech Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 You soon will be..... Greek straps from V that is Wait till you start getting Strap-itis Hey, Unfortunately, I'm already a WIS. So I've pretty much have had xxx itis... zooms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slai Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 You soon will be..... Greek straps from V that is Wait till you start getting Strap-itis My first V strap is on its way tomorrow. I can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 (edited) Welcome to PAM mania! The technical term, is PAMophilia (coined by me ) Edited February 21, 2008 by TeeJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Hey, Unfortunately, I'm already a WIS. So I've pretty much have had xxx itis... zooms Who doesn't know a 127 crownguard is inverted, compared to many other Luminors? Sorry, couldn't resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 But which way do the chrono crownguards face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 But which way do the chrono crownguards face? Don't know about the chrono CG... but the lever points down to 6 on the chronos, instead of pointing up to 12 on Luminors and subs... I wonder why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Ah, very tricky. So let's go with trivia. What was the last luminor chrono to come with cg lever towards 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 The Beast - ChronoZilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztech Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I guess I've never noticed that the CG was inverted on the 127's. I don't think I've ever seen one in person. Gen or rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I guess I've never noticed that the CG was inverted on the 127's. I don't think I've ever seen one in person. Gen or rep. And you say you're a WIS? Even though the 127 is my favorite watch in my collection, I'd be the first to admit that they take a bit of getting used to, before becoming a daily beater. I'm sure I read on the forum that someone bought and sold two before settling on one. The first one I had (returned due to a defective crown guard lever, and exchanged for my PVD 111g) I felt was 'too big' (especially when viewing the luminous markers at night) but, the second one, I adapted to pretty quickly, and I wear it every day. I'm now so used to it, that I feel the 45mm Planet Ocean 'looks small', and a Submariner, looks almost 'feminine' by comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztech Posted February 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 And you say you're a WIS? Even though the 127 is my favorite watch in my collection, I'd be the first to admit that they take a bit of getting used to, before becoming a daily beater. I'm sure I read on the forum that someone bought and sold two before settling on one. The first one I had (returned due to a defective crown guard lever, and exchanged for my PVD 111g) I felt was 'too big' (especially when viewing the luminous markers at night) but, the second one, I adapted to pretty quickly, and I wear it every day. I'm now so used to it, that I feel the 45mm Planet Ocean 'looks small', and a Submariner, looks almost 'feminine' by comparison Well, I got away from PAM's several years ago and have been into mostly unknown makes and models of late. Recently the urge for PAM's have started back. Most of my watches are divers and they start at 44mm and go all the way up to 53+ so I think the 127 will fit just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Well, I got away from PAM's several years ago and have been into mostly unknown makes and models of late. Recently the urge for PAM's have started back. Most of my watches are divers and they start at 44mm and go all the way up to 53+ so I think the 127 will fit just fine. I'm a fan of divers watches as well. Have you seen any of the Russian divers watches? Some aren't too shabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztech Posted February 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I'm a fan of divers watches as well. Have you seen any of the Russian divers watches? Some aren't too shabby Yes, I've got one from Invicta. The Invicta Corduba Russian diver. It's 51mm and it's a brute. Hate to say it, but it never get's any wrist time. I've owned several Invicta's in the past, and there are some quality models, but I'm not a fan of Invcita's at all now. I delved into them when I got my start as a WIS and have never bought another one since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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