seadweller3 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 1. 2. 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 2 may be the real deal. Hard to tell from the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 I suspect both red dials are fake. #1 definitely is. Come on... that's just laughable. I'm 99% sure #3 is too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polexpete Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Reds are fake white is real... P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Actually, on 2nd look the 2nd dial looks like an NDtrading piece that may have been relumed, which is what threw me the 1st time. So they are all probably fakes, with the 2nd 1 being the least objectionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Definitely not bad. All are reps, as far as what I can tell. I should clarify that by saying re-dials... The second one is the best of the re-dials. Still not gen. Check the 'O' in the Rolex and the small horizontal lines on the "E" and "L", those are very precise on the gen. The coronet looks good to me, and the "m" in the subscript is what made me think it was gen on first glance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 These & most of the 'repainted' dials sold by NDtrading & other dial vendors are not in fact redials at all. What they are are new aftermarket dials being marketed as 'repainted' to give them some degree of authenticity, which they do not deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greystash Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 3 might be fake, but the font and color of SUBMARINER looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greystash Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Sorry sir, but number three is a simple MBW dial - The red Submariner writing is one of the biggest flaws - compare with the real thing and you will see. While I agree the font curves in three aren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 The back of the second dial is unmarked. My gen from '78 is stamped Beyeler on the back. Lume is somewhat sloppy, so I'd agree that it looks like a redial, or it's an outright fake. I concur with freddy that the NDTrading dials are new. They refer to them as redials in an effort to stay out of hot water with the Rolex guys is my theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 I agree, Rep. I think they are flying under the radar. Don't know if the patent rights have expired or not on the vintage stuff. As a hobby, I love it, but it's not a business I'd ever get into. And moving to Thailand and sippping Daiquiris on the beach w/ TTK would only work for a short vacation as far as I'm concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Well, i just ran across dial #2 on ebay. I still don't like it, even if the guy is a member of IWJG. http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Vintage-Rolex-Sub...1QQcmdZViewItem item # 190200761300 if the link doesn't work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Good find, Alligoat. I still have reservations, but the seller does have a good track record of selling Rolex, so maybe it is gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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