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Lume - Gen vs C3


slai

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I did a search and couldn't find a thread comparing the two so I thought I'd give it a shot. I only have a P&S camera so I don't have manual control of exposure time. The comparison will just be for colour and how long it lasts, not absolute brightness.

Here are the candidates.

217 with C3 SL

217lume.jpg

Gen 111j. (I messed up the white balance in this pic)

111lumetest.jpg

Of course, it was a pretty quick decision to use this to do the timing for this test.

lumetimer.jpg

Immediately after the lights are out.

lume1min.jpg

1 minute elapsed.

lume10min.jpg

2 minutes elapsed.

lume20min.jpg

10 minutes elapsed.

lume30min.jpg

30 minutes elapsed. At this point, the camera can barely see a thing but there's still no problem picking it up with the naked eye. It stays at this brightness for hours.

lume60min.jpg

Judging from the colour and how long the lume lasts, it seems that OP uses regular C3 lume and there's no need for any fancy mixing of pigments

Edit: woops, made a mistake with my image labelling. Corrected.

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Judging from the colour and how long the lume lasts, it seems that OP uses regular C3 lume and there's no need for any fancy mixing of pigments.

Something a certain watchsmith out East has been saying for a while now ;)

Great comparison Slai and your pictures were really good :thumbsupsmileyanim:

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I think you are addressing the luminosity issue and it is a well known fact that C3 glows better than C1 or any whiter lume. And yes the man from the East has been telling us this for a while. On the basic color I always find the debate amusing. Panerai varies its basic lume color based on year and model. I have always wondered if it is on purpose or lack of consistency in their mixing. :lol:

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Got it. I have never detected a big difference in glow color. I got curious and just tested a couple of Ziggified reps versus gens and it looked identical or close to it. But I have no gens more recent than the F series. And some folks here had thought PAM had changed their lume mix on later models.:)

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Yeah, I was expecting more of a bluish glow from the gen...then I noticed it sitting next to the 217 in my watchbox at around 4 in the morning looking exactly the same so I decided to try a more controlled comparison. Who knows...they could very well change in mid-run too since there are variances within the J series in the crown guard as well.

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Interesting and great comparison.

If the Genuine watch manufacturer's are all using Super Luminova, then I have always been of the opinion that SL is the best there is.

It continues to amaze me that some claim to have bettered the scientists and RC Tritec and mixed up a batch of lume that out-glows and out-lasts Super Lume. I like to think RC Tritec are the experts, if they can't make it any brighter, then no one can...

Thanks for posting this.

RG

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Interesting and great comparison.

If the Genuine watch manufacturer's are all using Super Luminova, then I have always been of the opinion that SL is the best there is.

It continues to amaze me that some claim to have bettered the scientists and RC Tritec and mixed up a batch of lume that out-glows and out-lasts Super Lume. I like to think RC Tritec are the experts, if they can't make it any brighter, then no one can...

Agree, except the scientists aren't really in Switzerland, they're in Japan.

It's my understanding that Lumibrite was developed by Seiko's Nemoto subsidiary, and is licensed to RC Tritec, who sell it under the name SuperLuminova. (They actually formed the joint venture LumiNova AG Switzerland, so that they could produce the licensed product in Switzerland, under a Swiss brand name, and satisfy the "Swiss Made" requirements.)

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Agree, except the scientists aren't really in Switzerland, they're in Japan.

It's my understanding that Lumibrite was developed by Seiko's Nemoto subsidiary, and is licensed to RC Tritec, who sell it under the name SuperLuminova. (They actually formed the joint venture LumiNova AG Switzerland, so that they could produce the licensed product in Switzerland, under a Swiss brand name, and satisfy the "Swiss Made" requirements.)

You are correct.

I got a press release from Tritec a few weeks ago (have since thrown it out) and I think it concerned them buying the worldwide rights or something for Super Luminova... or developing a new product...I can't remember the exact details now.

But yes, SL was developed in Japan, but I am not sure exactly what RC Tritec does and doesn't do in their shop, it appears that they do have a development section.

RG

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That's funny, slai, I was thinking the same thing. I will say that the non-charged color of the lume on the dials is different between my Orange Monster and my 002D. Although, I have no idea if the OM is using plain C3 or not.

Or maybe I just need to get my eyes checked..... ;)

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