lanikai Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Greed makes Fools look funny .. the GMTIIc crystal with mags are on it's way to Hawaii but what transpired yesterday will be entertaining to say the least.. It did raise my BP regardless of the fact that I figured this seller would pull something along these lines.. Long story short after I had remitted the funds and asked for verification from him ..and btw I did purchase extra.. not for sale per say .. but for 'spoilage' in case something went wrong with a couple of them..and since this is a "not for profit" project I am doing the extra buy's on my own.. So to verify that it would be the same price I asked if there would be an additional discount if ther were x number more.. Fasil replied.. 50 and he would discount 1.00 more.. and "shiping would be the same".. meaning with shiping the mags would be 20.00 each ...that is the cost for the crystal shiped.. Fasil verified this.. (20 mags =360 usd,.. shiping= 40 usd..total = 400 usd ergo 20.00 each) (I have saved all the emails but this is just a short synopsis for entertainment.. not for "bitching") After recieving the Paypal .. Fasil emailed me ...... Ok will ship ... you forgot to add the shiping, send $20.00 ... OK .. SOP for Fasil right ??? So I emailed him of the 'agreement' we had... he emailed me .. totally oblivious to the words I were saying about the emails.. He ignored my mail for most of the early morning ... I then mailed him in chronological order all the mail from the first contact to take this outside of official ebay lines... (ahhh making his own deal so he would not have to pay ebay their 'juice") .. Good !!!! insurance for me.. Again he played "Dumb" and asked how I arrived at 20.00 usd.. I told him I was tired and it may be best just to dispute this with PP and Ebay.. (one in the same) ...he replied instantly "OK.. I told you I would mail the crystal.. be patient" I told him "we" were out of patience ... my attorney would contact PP.. BAM next email: Dear rxxxx xxxxxx, Your package will be shipped by PayPal Shipping with U.S. Postal Service Authentic Time Inc used PayPal Shipping with U.S. Postal Service to create a shipping label for your package. You can check the delivery status of your package online at: http://trkcnfrm1.smi.usps.com/PTSInternetW...o?origTrackNum=9101150134711310551906 Please note: Tracking information is updated throughout the day, but most data is transmitted in the afternoon or evening. For example, if your Express Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Well done R I always chuckle whenever Freddy starts frothing at the mouth about "Mr Slimeball". The sort of character that if you did this deal in person and shook on it, you'd be wise to count your fingers afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted July 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Well done R I always chuckle whenever Freddy starts frothing at the mouth about "Mr Slimeball". The sort of character that if you did this deal in person and shook on it, you'd be wise to count your fingers afterwards. This guy is stupidly greedy.. I think I'll email PP a copy of his,.... give good review all 5 DSR .. if unhappy contact me directly.. there is no way on God's green earth that I would do this outside of PP.. the one time you can use it to your advantage is with Fasil ..he has too much to loose I'm still laughing at the way he responded instantly with the shipping number.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Doc's comments speak for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted July 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Doc's comments speak for themselves. If you know what's coming at you you can plan.. first time is a surprise... second time is payback...in other words with guy's like this.. don't get mad.. get even .. notice he ships out of Texas I believe.. there is a reason for that ................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Sounds like he'd have the eyeballs out of your head and come back for the lashes later. (Old Irish saying that I rather like) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Lani, I am proud to see you stand up and get us what was promised. I Thank You,, It's actually more principle with me than the extra money.. Thanks Again for all your very hard work here! MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Actually I'll not mess with PP.. let his karma take care of him !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Just one word of advise here.... I've purchased 2.5X mags for Rollies in the past (not from this guy) that turned out to be anything but 2.5X upon arrival.... Make *sure* you've received what you paid for *prior* to sending these in for AR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Just one word of advise here.... I've purchased 2.5X mags for Rollies in the past (not from this guy) that turned out to be anything but 2.5X upon arrival.... Make *sure* you've received what you paid for *prior* to sending these in for AR. I was going to suggest the same thing, but I did not want to be the 1 to beat this dead horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 I did not want to be the 1 to beat this dead horse. Leave that to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Leave that to me. No I disagree.. it is left to me actually chief !!! .. I can refund anyones money immediately.. and should the mags turn out to be bogus .. and believe me it has crossed my mind.. no one came forward when I had asked for assistance so it is a little late for members to chime in .. about what might or might not happen because the bottom line is that if in fact they are different from the one that I bought myself for sample, (which actually I have really no use for and bought and paid for at full price plus shiping) .. then all monies will be returned.. btw.. which has put a serious dent into my account until they are released; I ponied up the cash.. So with all this being said.. and rallyed as : "I was thinking that ...and I thought so senario's" .. I am ultimately responsible .. so no worries to all parties involved or not.. Aloha Lani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 OK, and I am guilty of not knowing that you'd already obtained a sample that was verified to be good.... We're probably in the clear, then. Carry on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 OK, and I am guilty of not knowing that you'd already obtained a sample that was verified to be good.... We're probably in the clear, then. Carry on! I HAVE BEEN FOR 2 WEEKS SOLO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S BEEN POSTED ALL OVER THE KNOWN WORLD Edit add: @freddy.. needless to say I can refund your money .. I cannot understand why you seem to preordain things when it is not your time and energy involved.. as far as the crystal goes.. I can dump it out of principle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Yea, my bad for having not followed the status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Edit add: @freddy.. needless to say I can refund your money .. I cannot understand why you seem to preordain things when it is not your time and energy involved.. as far as the crystal goes.. I can dump it out of principle My apolgies, Lani. I appreciate all of your efforts & I am sure everything will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Yea, my bad for having not followed the status. Your Play on Semantics is duly noted.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Lani- Welcome to the wonderful world of organizing a group buy.You go out the thousands and then pray. I have not been paying attention to this one so I have no idea what you are doing but best of luck with it. I still have quite a few cyclops and a few of those gen crowns. But if I wait long enough they should be worth bazillions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alextor Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Fasil Argggghh Ali ...Similar story, different product, I still receive a reminder email everyday to pay for the same item a second time...Not sure if the guys is playing cute, is just greedy or is a plain moron...maybe a combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Your Play on Semantics is duly noted.. Hmmm? I was just trying to help make sure this thing went smoothly for you, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hmmm? I was just trying to help make sure this thing went smoothly for you, bro. AAhhhhh .. I see B... smoothly after the fact that is .... this is one of the pics or from the same shots that I took .. I believe the light hue os the saphire colour. Pics have been in the sign up thread foor awhile now .. plus I verified to "all parties" .. so there is nothing to do but take these off !! I know this guy is a slezze,, but if everything was planned corrrectly if should be no probem with the colecitve idea here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 (chieftang @ Jul 24 2008, 05:19 AM) * Hmmm? I was just trying to help make sure this thing went smoothly for you, bro. AAhhhhh .. I see B... smoothly after the fact that is You can rest assured, lani, that I will not make the same horrendous mistake twice. Jesus H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 ive ordered these mags from wholesaleoutlet before and they were not 2.5x.. more like 1.5x.. hopefully he sends you better ones than he sent me. My last order from his never even arrived and i had to go through ebay complaints dept to get them to resend it.. been 2 months and nothing in the mail shifty shifty... ive ordered from them many times and this is the second time i've had problems. wont order again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 You can rest assured, lani, that I will not make the same horrendous mistake twice. Jesus H ya forgot Joseph and Mary ..... I reevaluated the the mag on a genuine 1680 crystal and if anything it looks like too much magnification.. so the firestorm has begun.. something tells me to just return the batch.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 ive ordered these mags from wholesaleoutlet before and they were not 2.5x.. more like 1.5x.. hopefully he sends you better ones than he sent me. My last order from his never even arrived and i had to go through ebay complaints dept to get them to resend it.. been 2 months and nothing in the mail shifty shifty... ive ordered from them many times and this is the second time i've had problems. wont order again. Dizzy, one thing you should know about these mags.. not all will be appear to be 2.5... it depends on the height of the crystal .. the older vintage 1680 for example rides very high... ergo the date font looks huge.. this is because the mag is farther away from the font ... if you put a 2.5 on a crystal that is set low to the dial it will not be as magnified .. I have tried this with the mag in question on various crystals .. and it matches perfectly with the mag on the GMTIIc .. but remember this is a rep mag.. but they got the specs from the genuine.. that is why i summized that it was correct.. the mag you had may have very well been 2.5 but if you used it on a crystal that sat low to the dial then it would not magnify as well as one even a fraction of a mm higher...it makes a huge difference .... how the crystal is set.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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