Vintage Pre-Daytona reps?

[symbebekos]

First off, I'm a new member, so let me apologize in advance if I inadvertently breech board etiquette in any way. So - recently, after my first (non-Rolex) rep purchase, I came across this forum and have been trying to educate myself before I dive in and buy a Rolex rep. I was browsing the April Antiquorum auction and completely fell in love with the "Jean-Claude Killy" 6236:

That dial! It seems superficially similar to the 6234; they're both pre-Daytona Oyster Chrongraphs. I've been looking for reps of either, but all I can seem to find are the pre-Daytonas that Joshua sells. So my questions are - does anyone have experience with those reps in terms of reliability and fidelity to the gen? Does anyone make a 6234 or 6236 dial, and would they be compatible with those reps? Would it be possible to use the rep as a base for a franken of some kind, perhaps replacing the bracelet, crystal, maybe even the mechanism with vintage gens, or is that insane or impossible? Any info would be much appreciated!

[freddy333]

Welcome to RWG & the complicated world of Daytona & pre-Daytona reps.

Josh's are about the only pre-Daytonas I have seen (a few others sell the same reps). I have a couple myself

These reps do accept gen crystals (with a bit of nudging), crowns/tubes & bracelets. But that is about all you can do with them since the movements are standard Asian automatic 7750 copies with symmetrical pusher arrangements (the gens are manual-wind & the pushers are asymmetrically spaced relative to the crown (top pusher is closer to the stem, bottom pusher is slightly further away)

I have seen a 'Killy' rep somewhere, but I do not think it was from any of our collectors (& it was very inaccurate). There are a number of reviews & tutorials for modding Daytonas that you can find with the Search function at the top of every page.

[symbebekos]

Freddy,

That is incredibly helpful, thank you so much! I was not aware of the symmetry problem - have to think that one over. Your watches are beautiful, and now I think I have to get one

[freddy333]

Freddy,

That is incredibly helpful, thank you so much! I was not aware of the symmetry problem - have to think that one over. Your watches are beautiful, and now I think I have to get one

Get 'one'? Are you kidding? Nobody can have just 1 Daytona!!!!!!!!

Add 'dw and daytona' to your searches for the state of the art in vintage Daytonas.

[alligoat]

Jewelry and Watch- www.jewelryandwatch.com- has the 6236 (or is it the 6036?) and the price is very steep- but it has the V72C movt, correct case and aftermarket dial. Once again, it's manual wind like the original. Buying the parts and sourcing a V72C, you might be able to build one for $3000-4000. Less if you could adapt a DW case.

The 6234 and 6238 with the asian 7750 aren't a bad place to start. Josh and a few others have them. Although not correct as far as the pusher spacing, I've certainly enjoyed my 6238- I did spend a couple of hundred dollars to have Ziggy service it. So, for under $500, I have a nice dependable vintage chronograph- and I doubt anyone will ever call you out on it- people just don't know anything about these watches!

[Slartibartfast]

Josh's are about the only pre-Daytonas I have seen (a few others sell the same reps). I have a couple myself

Hey Freddy, this is one rollie model I have never considered. It looks good. Can you elaborate on the build quality of the version from Josh? I feel I need one of these to add to my vintage collection!

BTW thanks to new member symbebekos for pointing out a really great looking vintage rep to an old hand.

[arty909]

After three years I've been very pleased with my 6238 rep- inaccuracies and all. It has a plexi crystal, rivetted bracelet, and proper markings. Gets a ton of compliments too. Cheers, Arty

[Slartibartfast]

Arty.. that is one great looking vintage rep. Why have I missed this model all this time? I need to get me one of these!

[alligoat]

Try this Slarti!

http://www.pc-80108.com/rldv10012-daytona-...7750-p-305.html

With a service from Ziggy, it's a dependable little watch- a classic.

[Slartibartfast]

Try this Slarti!

http://www.pc-80108.com/rldv10012-daytona-...7750-p-305.html

Thanks alligoat. I might just order one of these up from Josh. I really like the look of this classic, and I neeeeeeeed another for the display box.

And again, thanks to newbie symbebekos for kicking this thread off. Great start!!!

[Nanuq]

Did somebody say Jean-Claude Killy? A classic!

[Slartibartfast]

Did somebody say Jean-Claude Killy? A classic!

OMG!!!!! A beauty!

[freddy333]

Hey Freddy, this is one rollie model I have never considered. It looks good. Can you elaborate on the build quality of the version from Josh? I feel I need one of these to add to my vintage collection!

I got mine a few years ago from another seller, but Josh's looks like the same rep I have.

The build quality is very good, but mine is powered by 1 of the original A7750s, which some have had problems with (not me). If it only had asymmetrical pushers, I would be in heaven. Same with my other pre-Daytonas. While I love these watches, I do not love them enough to invest the time & money to make V72 frankens (at least not yet).

[symbebekos]

Thanks for all the love you guys All the info and pictures are fantastic. As for getting called out, if you meet someone and they say "hey, your pre-Daytona chronograph has symmetrical pushers!" you can probably make a friend out of them