By-Tor Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 This is an interesting model. Not many Rolex people know that they briefly produced a GMT II with Submariner clasp and thicker case. These are not yet highly collectible, but I believe they WILL be. This particular watch isn't in very good condition though. I'm actually surprised how old the dial looks, despite the watch being only from 1983. Nothing wrong with the watch though, I'm sure it's genuine. See The Fat Lady here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 That's a rare on indeed. Shame about the condition but I'm sure it would clean up. Thanks for the heads up By-Tor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted September 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Here is more great info about this model (and the whole history of the GMT transition years). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Nice find & I agree about the dial. Pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlsbadrolex Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I likey just as it is... It has character!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 How can that dial be so corroded and the movement looks basically fine? Interesting find B-T, thanks for sharing it w/ us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted September 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 How can that dial be so corroded and the movement looks basically fine? Good question. I have a feeling that this particular watch might have been compromised with water at some point. Dial definitely looks much older than it is. Not normal aging for a watch that "new" (imho). Another trivia fact: The "fat lady" only came with the "Coke" red/black insert from the factory. AD's changed them by customer request of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 BT, I posted about this watch back last year in my Mystery Vintage Quiz... Anyway, what's with the Fat Lady insult? The 16760 with factory red/black bezel is, and should always be known as the 'Sophia' (as in Loren) much more fitting for such a voluptuous beauty. As for condition, well the 1st series no-dates are still 25 years old and even the best looked after example shows dial aging. Compare these two, born merely weeks apart.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggy Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Picked this one up a year or two ago from a "broke," friend for $1500 to save it from the pawn shop. Mint condition - will keep it 'till "i'm looking up at the grass." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 have I lost it, or are you all saying no date? Theres a date on the watch. The item description also says "no date" printed on dial. Dont see that. I pop one too many valium today or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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