shultz Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Hi, I'll go to purchase a 187 but I am afraid I could loose the bezel markers which was my sad experience with the arktos. I would appreciate it if the 187 owners could tell me (and of course all the other forum members ) how the quality of the 187 bezel especially the markers is. Thanks a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willith Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 I have heard of several members with marker problems (falling off). It looks like they can rep a nice watch, but can't afford to buy better glue to hold it together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Hi, I'll go to purchase a 187 but I am afraid I could loose the bezel markers which was my sad experience with the arktos. I would appreciate it if the 187 owners could tell me (and of course all the other forum members ) how the quality of the 187 bezel especially the markers is. Thanks a lot Same for me too, dude... Any advice from 187 owners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Same for me too, dude... Any advice from 187 owners? Personally I was TRYING to take the markers off to use a better glue and I couldn't without being afraid that I will scratch the bezel. Probably in mine they used ga good amount of glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Personally I was TRYING to take the markers off to use a better glue and I couldn't without being afraid that I will scratch the bezel. Probably in mine they used ga good amount of glue. Well, good for you if they did... Do the markers look like they've been set into recessed portions, or just stuck onto the flat surface of the bezel? Can't really tell from the pix I've seen so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shultz Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Well, good for you if they did... Do the markers look like they've been set into recessed portions, or just stuck onto the flat surface of the bezel? Can't really tell from the pix I've seen so far... I can't tell it for the 187 but my arktos came with recessed portions (but of course the glue was lousay... lost several markers). As far as I understood the 187's bezel has got recessed portions, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bignasty Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 The markers are recessed and they are probably all glued the same. The glue appears to be a high viscosity superglue or expoxy. High vicosity meaning thin and unable to bridge gaps. So if the bezel markers didn't sit 100% perfectly in their seats eventually you will see problems. Some probably sooner than others. Otherwise this is what will probably happen to the others. The first time your rep gets hot from being exposed to the sun, excercise, or whatever the glue gets loose and all it will take is for you to tap your watch across something and you'll be missing two or three! I took the advice of another forum member. I submerged (yes it is water resistant!) my watch in warm water for a few minutes. Then CAREFULLY removed all the bezel markers with some precision pliers that are not groved so not to scar. With a litte force and care you will hear them crack loose. I've since then reattached each marker with Metalset A4 Resin Epoxy (thanks RBJ)! This stuff is the stuff they patch bulletholes with on military helicopters, so yeah its tough! Its actually a two part cement epoxy tht contains aluminum as well as other materials that take well to metals. It also dries very very tough! Anyway, to each his own but I wanted to take action before I had a problem because I really love this watch! Good luck! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADRED7 Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 ......just to second what BigNasty posted. Take care of the tiny things before you have to search them in your carpet. For those who are afraid to submerge the watch in hot water...just use a normal hairdryer, the hot air will also help to remove the glue a bit. I will reglue all my bezel markers as soon as my 187er will hit my doorsteps. Good luck, Theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebakanezzar Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 I thought I saw someone say the markers on the 187 were attched with pins or screws or somthing as well as glue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanerich Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 I thought I saw someone say the markers on the 187 were attched with pins or screws or somthing as well as glue... That was the more expensive watchhonpo 187 rep from a few months back. The current 187 is glue only, as I've had the misfortune to discover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebakanezzar Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 That was the more expensive watchhonpo 187 rep from a few months back. The current 187 is glue only, as I've had the misfortune to discover. that sux. I guess this is the rare case where those who bought version 1.0 got what they paid for! Nice to see it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyyall714 Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 that sux. I guess this is the rare case where those who bought version 1.0 got what they paid for! Nice to see it happens. Already lost one...where can I get another marker? -w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shultz Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Already lost one...where can I get another marker? -w Remembering my lost Arktos markers..... I'm afraid it will be a lottery to get one.... Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 well i do hope that my 187 will be OK...probably EL has take some time to stick the bezel markers for me since it is already on the way for 10 days.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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