ubiquitous Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 As if I needed another watch... THIS one has to come along and make my jaw DROP! Watch funds are tapped... And I have too many existing projects still needing funding... Why must the good stuff always come at the least convenient of times?!
leitztozeiss Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 As if I needed another watch... THIS one has to come along and make my jaw DROP! Why must the good stuff always come at the least convenient of times?! I said the same thing to my brother earlier today. I love that watch!
sevomd Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 I'm gonna have to order the dial from him. i have the older version 201a, but the bolder font is killer. Do I have to have The Zigmeister like skills to exchange the dial. Any pointers would be great. Eddy
kasigi Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Must Resist Incidentally, that caseback is the same (apart from the serial number) as the one I have on my 005. I must get around to replacing it.
ubiquitous Posted July 13, 2006 Author Report Posted July 13, 2006 I'm gonna have to order the dial from him. i have the older version 201a, but the bolder font is killer. Do I have to have Ziggy like skills to exchange the dial. Any pointers would be great. Eddy Nah... Dial swap is pretty easy to do. I can walk you through it, if you're wanting to give it a try. Since it's a base, you only have to deal with 2 hands, and since they're pretty large, they're easy to work with. When the time comes, just shoot me a PM. Is your old case also from David?
Shasta Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 How come this 5218-201/a has a sanwhich dial, and Davidsen's doesn't?
ubiquitous Posted July 13, 2006 Author Report Posted July 13, 2006 It's technically not a sandwich dial as there is only a single plane on the dial, and the numerals/indicies are not cut all the way through. Rather, the indicies are slightly recessed and then filled with tritium and then coated with varnish on top (for the genuine that is). David's may be similar, though the pictures may not accurately reflect it.
V Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Here for reference: http://www.watches24seven.com/gallery2/mai...p;g2_itemId=314
sevomd Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Nah... Dial swap is pretty easy to do. I can walk you through it, if you're wanting to give it a try. Since it's a base, you only have to deal with 2 hands, and since they're pretty large, they're easy to work with. When the time comes, just shoot me a PM. Is your old case also from David? Thanx Randy for the offer. Yeah its from Davidsen. Some pics. I'm also getting his new CG. Coming in the package with my fantasy 218a. Got the 218a in SS case. I think 2 PVD's are enough for me. Eddy
Star69 Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 (edited) [censored] me - also got the old version few weeks ago - and i adore it ! can someone post an tutuorial how to put the new dial, cgs and palp-crown ? Edited July 13, 2006 by kelster
relaxman Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 Dang R just by the real deal! I saw one for sale the other day for a mere $19500. Thats chicken scratch for a man of your stature. MG
drop Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 (edited) Thanx Randy for the offer. Yeah its from Davidsen. Some pics. I'm also getting his new CG. Coming in the package with my fantasy 218a. Got the 218a in SS case. I think 2 PVD's are enough for me. Eddy Beautiful! Looks like the indices are recessed? Hard to tell from Davidesn's pics.. Edited July 14, 2006 by drop
chris5264 Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 This watch looks very close to gen to me........man,,,,,,,,bad time to be low on cash.
sevomd Posted July 13, 2006 Report Posted July 13, 2006 I just bought the new dial from David. Gonna try my hand in modding. Eddy
ubiquitous Posted July 13, 2006 Author Report Posted July 13, 2006 Okay guys, I'll put together a crash course in dial swapping. I will try to do it with some old pics that I have; unfortunately, I have no need to take one of my current PAMs apart, so I'd rather not tear into one if I don't have to. I'll try to get this posted tonight...
sevomd Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 Okay guys, I'll put together a crash course in dial swapping. I will try to do it with some old pics that I have; unfortunately, I have no need to take one of my current PAMs apart, so I'd rather not tear into one if I don't have to. I'll try to get this posted tonight... You da man brutha. I and many others appreciate this. Eddy
eunomians Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 Dang, that hurts to see that beast. I'm outta surplus funds now, too. Of course - only when the dope sh*t comes out. Geez, I should buy a lottery ticket...
archibald Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 What say ye PAM WIS's about the new guard? Accurate for a Pre-A, would it also be an improvement over existing rep H series guards on my 111H? The brushing looks a little rough to me, intentionally to match pre A brushing, maybe--but that's an easy fix... Davidsen is on a major roll! I knew someone would come along who gets that there is a demand for and profit in small runs of high quality aftermarket parts and interesting watches. Great work!
sevomd Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 What say ye PAM WIS's about the new guard? Accurate for a Pre-A, would it also be an improvement over existing rep H series guards on my 111H? The brushing looks a little rough to me, intentionally to match pre A brushing, maybe--but that's an easy fix... Davidsen is on a major roll! I knew someone would come along who gets that there is a demand for and profit in small runs of high quality aftermarket parts and interesting watches. Great work! From my understanding through many conversations with David, the CG's for his cases do not fit the cases of other reps without some modification. The holes don't line up. But I don't remember if I had this conversation with him regarding hte first runs or the second runs, but I would definitely ask him before getting them. Eddy
davidsenjpn Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 What say ye PAM WIS's about the new guard? Accurate for a Pre-A, would it also be an improvement over existing rep H series guards on my 111H? The brushing looks a little rough to me, intentionally to match pre A brushing, maybe--but that's an easy fix... Davidsen is on a major roll! I knew someone would come along who gets that there is a demand for and profit in small runs of high quality aftermarket parts and interesting watches. Great work! hi, Thanks for your kind comments. Since there is a demad to have a better look at the dial.here they are. I am not sure if it is the the recessed index you are talking about.But i simply copied this dial from pics that i got from net.
Shasta Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 From my understanding through many conversations with David, the CG's for his cases do not fit the cases of other reps without some modification. The holes don't line up. But I don't remember if I had this conversation with him regarding hte first runs or the second runs, but I would definitely ask him before getting them. Eddy Are these CGs "new & improved" cuz the cutout is square & not rounded.....anything else?
ubiquitous Posted July 14, 2006 Author Report Posted July 14, 2006 Okay... Not wanting to re-invent the wheel, here is a good write up and overview on uncasing a 6497 from a Panerai case by Ziggy: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=1416 So, to start this project, simply follow Ziggy's excellent step by step tutorial to remove the movement and dial assembly NOTE: Rob states to release the stem in the winding position; I personally release mine in the time setting position (and have done so with no problems thus far), but who am I to argue with the Robster? The man knows his movements! Anyhow... Once the assembly is removed from the case, secure the movement in a movement holder, and start by removing the hands. You can use a specific tool made just for hand removal; I myself use two very small 1.0mm screwdrivers with a bit of tape wrapped around the tip to prevent scratching. Gently slide the blade under the hands and very, very gently work the hands off the pinions. Since this movement is hour and minute only, there's no need to preset the time to 12:00 or anything for a baseline on the date changeover; it simply aint there Next, remove the dial. There are two very small lock screws right next to where the movement clamps secure to the movement. If you look very closely, one edge of the screw head is flat; what you'll want to do is line the flat edge up with the dial feet. Once both screw heads are aligned as such, the dial is ready to come off, and should lift free. Once the dial is off, simply replace it with the new dial and lock the dial feet back in with the lock screws. Flip the movement back over and it's time to set the hands back on. Personally, I like to go the low buck route with hand pressing tools- I use an empty BIC pen tube, which has done the job well and without any scratches. You can opt for a specialized tool; whichever method you feel the most comfortable with is what I recommend For best results and ideal alignment, set the hands at 12:00. This provides a good basis for proper hand alignment around the dial and also allows you the chance to look at the hands from the side to make sure that the hands are not coming into contact with each other, or the dial. Once confirmed that all is clearing properly, the watch is ready to be re-cased. Rob has provided the procedure for this as well in the link above. Once the watch is re-cased, and the stem is reinstalled, I recommend pulling the crown out to the time setting position, and giving the hands a full revolution around the dial to make sure that there are no issues with the hands contacting each other. And, there you have it. Sorry the pictures are all poor quality (and relatively old). Perhaps, if time allows this weekend, I will take one of my watches apart for some updated pics of the procedure. Hope this helps!! Best, Randy
eunomians Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 Lovely dial David! Great tutorial pics Ubi!
archibald Posted July 14, 2006 Report Posted July 14, 2006 Great tutorial pics Ubi! LOL! now that's what I call fast service! Ask for a tutorial at dinner, have your dial swapped by bedtime!
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