Guest Dr.TuB Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 i purchased a swiss eta Deep Sea V2 from a dealer over at repgeek. and upon inspection of the movement, this is what i saw... someone tell me which movement it is please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 No idea on the movement....but am very interested in knowing this. I also recently got a V3 swiss eta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr.TuB Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 This is what the dealer wrote to me Thomas thats a 2846 gen ETA but not correct for your watch that is the correct movement for the Omega PO etc running at 25000bph . You need to send it back and I will fit a 2824/2 or 2836 for you . I honestly didn't know we had these in stock they are impossible to find and cost 3 times more than the 2836.Robert is what he is saying true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peyups Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Ask The Zigmeister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) Yes it's a gen ETA-2846, and no, it doesn't cost 3 times as much as ETA-2836. Edited December 23, 2008 by babola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krayfish Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 So did he get a better movement or what? Result ! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 No what he got is an ETA 2846, these are the movements that were fitted in the swatch autos, it is a slower beat than a 2836/24 and also lacks the exenter adjuster, these poped up in upos a while ago and alot were sent back, yes it is a gen ETA, no it is not better as it has the incorect beat for what he wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Swatch movement is 2842 2846 is with additional day-date and it is very rare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Nothing more to add, it's a genuine ETA. RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Here's what it is... http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi...wk&ETA_2846 Nothing wrong with them except they are 21600 bph and you need 28800 bph in a modern rolex replica. They are great for vintage rolex replicas. They also sell for less than a 2824/2836. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 They also sell for less than a 2824/2836. They do? Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Nothing wrong with them except they are 21600 bph and you need 28800 bph in a modern rolex replica. They are great for vintage rolex replicas. They also sell for less than a 2824/2836. I agree except for the value. The 2846 is a discontinued ETA calibre that is highly sought after (by rep makers & modders) for use in vintage Rolex reps due to its slower beat, which is closer to the 18k-19.8k beat of many vintage Rolex watches. The movement in the OP's watch looks to be a gen Swiss-made ETA, but impossible to be sure without a close, personal inspection. If the OP has or plans to get any vintage Rolex reps, you might want to retain this movement for use in those & source another 2836 for your Deepsea (which has the correct 28.8k beat). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr.TuB Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 so should i send this back? is the movement rare? if it is, should i just keep it? or maybe someone want to do a trade with me I agree except for the value. The 2846 is a discontinued ETA calibre that is highly sought after (by rep makers & modders) for use in vintage Rolex reps due to its slower beat, which is closer to the 18k-19.8k beat of many vintage Rolex watches. The movement in the OP's watch looks to be a gen Swiss-made ETA, but impossible to be sure without a close, personal inspection. If the OP has or plans to get any vintage Rolex reps, you might want to retain this movement for use in those & source another 2836 for your Deepsea (which has the correct 28.8k beat). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krayfish Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 so should i send this back? is the movement rare? if it is, should i just keep it? or maybe someone want to do a trade with me I agree.........a nice Blacksteel would be a good fair trade. I 100% agree with you, its VERY rare. If you get stuck Tub's I'll sling you $5 for it because I like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 quote = They do? Where? /quote Just to show I am not talking out my azz... Startime Supply, Houston TX November 5 2008 Eta 2824-2...$149 Eta 2836-2...$149 Eta 2846...$129 They had blow out on nib steel Berne diver watches with screwbacks, sapphire crystals, screw down crowns, Eta 2824-2, in a wood box for $149 each but they are probably all gone by now. Here is what they look like... http://www.bernardwatch.com/Berne Buy 50 movements and they will probably make you a deal. Note: Do not cover them up with nuisance calls...this supply house deals with pros, not hobby guys. Believe it or not...I do know what I am talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 (edited) Automatico, I think you're on the money. This is what Otto Frei currently offers: - ETA 2846 movement; 21 jewels. $89.00 ...and this is with the watch. So yes, they do appear to be more affordable than ETA-2824/36. Check his website for more details. EDIT: Correction...Otto seems to be out of stock on these... Edited December 24, 2008 by babola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Eta 2846...$129 [...] Believe it or not...I do know what I am talking about. Interesting, apart from the fact they're less than half that price from Jules Borel. The question is whether or not they're in stock. Borel claims to sell 2836 movements for about $70 and 2846 movements under $60, so as long as they're in stock, I'm ordering some at that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 quote = Interesting, apart from the fact they're less than half that price from Jules Borel. The question is whether or not they're in stock. Borel claims to sell 2836 movements for about $70 and 2846 movements under $60, so as long as they're in stock, I'm ordering some at that price. /quote Try it. It seems every time I say something, I get tested on it. I was just quoting a 'for example' to show a 2846 was less than a 2824/36. Maybe you should get on the phone and call around to supply houses and see how it goes. If you want prices: The last batch of new 2846 movements I bought a few years back cost $60 each from ST International but it took over 6 months to get them. (the packages are marked ETA 2846/3) About 20 pounds of Jaques Prevard diver watches (store returns and nos) with 17 jewel eta 2846 (all running) for $10 each a few years back. The last 2824-2 movements I bought were $40 to $55 including the nib Gruen watches they came in...2836 were $55 in nos Oniss watches. The last eta 2892-A2 movements I bought were $100 each in new JW Benson watches with leather straps and display backs. The last val/eta 7750 were $150 to $200 in nib w/p Hamilton Khaki chronographs at the Orlando NAWCC show about 10 years back. A man was liquidating all the stock from Hamilton's outlet store. I had 20 or 30 and sold the last one in early spring '08. 50 assorted new steel Seiko 5 and 44mm Orient multi dates with b/p for $28 each. (15+/- left) Like this: http://www.watches88.com/pd_orient_automat...nder_46d001.cfm A friend buys 500 (five hundred) eta 2824-2 at a time direct from Swatch and I will ask him how much they are going for next time I talk to him. Imho, what this all boils down to is never sell a watch for less than the movement is worth at today's prices...and the $159 swiss eta powered replicas that "Paul" sold a few years ago were a pretty good deal compared to today's $400 replicas with a fake etas in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 quote= This is what Otto Frei currently offers: - ETA 2846 movement; 21 jewels. $89.00 ...and this is with the watch. So yes, they do appear to be more affordable than ETA-2824/36. EDIT: Correction...Otto seems to be out of stock on these... /quote Yeah, same as J Borel. They can quote $89 as long as they do not have any to sell. If you want to order one, they are probably $129+/-...if they can get them at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 It seems every time I say something, I get tested on it. With only 38 posts, it's inevitable. We have had our fair share of chancers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 quote = With only 38 posts, it's inevitable. We have had our fair share of chancers. /quote Ok, I have a couple questions for you: 1...How long have you been on the forums? I was on the old EZ Board RWCC until it folded and on TRC as 'Rick' (member number 43). I changed screen names after a server meltdown (no law against that). I was a poster on TZ beginning shortly after Richard Paige brought it over from Singapore as well as a few other forums. 2...How long have you worked on watches? I started working on them in the late 1960s, mostly rolex since 1972. You probably started out on the forums green and asking dozens of questions and had no trouble at all. I started out answering questions and have not had a good reception at all. The Truth is...(imho) you are a newby compared to some of us. Mind your manners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 The Truth is...(imho) you are a newby compared to some of us. Mind your manners. You joined here this year. You've posted 39 times. You don't have a recognisable Avatar or signature. Until you posted on this thread, I'd never heard of you. How on earth am I supposed to read your mind and realise you've had three hundred and twelve years of experience and practically single-handedly created the rep industry? Merry Christmas, and a happy new year. Who are you again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 quote = You joined here this year. You've posted 39 times. You don't have a recognisable Avatar or signature. Until you posted on this thread, I'd never heard of you. How on earth am I supposed to read your mind and realise you've had three hundred and twelve years of experience and practically single-handedly created the rep industry? Merry Christmas, and a happy new year. Who are you again? /quote Make that 325 years and no, I did not do it all alone. I had some help...one guy part time. It's people like you that make the internet such a wonderful place. Your humble, benevolent, and courteous attitude...and such a way with words! I am truly honored you took the time to reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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