JuniorNA Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I ordered a P112H - Pan because A. i like the base model without the seconds hand at 9:00, and this was had supposedly a stronger crown guard, and lever was thicker and stronger (not as wobbly) However when I received it, it did not say Luminor under the 12, and Panerai at the 6. It says Radiomir at the 12, and Panerai at the 6. Does this watch exist? or is this a fantasy piece? or was this just simply a mistake? Please take a look at the pics and let me know. The dealer I purchased it from said he will make it right and give me a correct one, but I'm wondering if this ever existed bc I kinda like the fact that its a little different than the rest, but wouldnt want it if it's a fantasy piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I'm not an expert on Pam's but I believe Radiomir's should have wires instead of lugs. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Send it back. You've received a bastardized Luminor rep with Radiomir dial and hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorNA Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Send it back. You've received a bastardized Luminor rep with Radiomir dial and hands. yep...figured. I hope i dont have to pay for shipping back to china. $25 is BS. Does the Dealer pay for return cost, or do we the consumer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I'm afraid you will have to pay the return postage. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 What Ken said, and make sure you don't skimp on postage service when you send it back. Trackable service like EMS or similar is a MUST IMO. good luck, babola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorNA Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 What Ken said, and make sure you don't skimp on postage service when you send it back. Trackable service like EMS or similar is a MUST IMO. good luck, babola What sucks is that the display back is nice, and the numbers on it are not like a regular pam. It does not say H0035/1000 or something like that. It actually has an item number like H0197/2000 - so I'm going to miss that once the standard P112 comes in the mail and I get my generic H0035/1000 engraving on the caseback I should prob keep it and say it was a speciality piece, but no one would believe me. But then again, no one in my life has ever seen a panarai, nor have I ever seen anyone in my life wear a PAN anyway....I should prob just keep it and save on the shipping costs. etc. but I could see how someone would not want a fantasy model, and want it returned for something that atleast looks like the GEN, but I am going to miss the unique unit make number on the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Can you post a pic of that caseback? If what you said is true and the shape/form and engraving is close to the real thing, than the value of the caseback with that serial # comes very close to the cost of sourcing the correct replacement dial and hands for that model, which you can order separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorNA Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Can you post a pic of that caseback? If what you said is true and the shape/form and engraving is close to the real thing, than the value of the caseback with that serial # comes very close to the cost of sourcing the correct replacement dial and hands for that model, which you can order separately. Sure, here is the caseback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 If you like the watch keep it, I would. Who's going to wear it? A nice watch I might add. Good luck Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorNA Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 If you like the watch keep it, I would. Who's going to wear it? A nice watch I might add. Good luck Mike I really do like the fact that the caseback is unique and not like the other p111's and p112's that are floating around. It's just a dead give away if someone were to notice and say something, which in term would have to be admitted it's a rep. bottom line. But i do like it. however something in my head is yelling at me to get the most accurate rep avail, then do the mods later....but then again, if i had the watch I wanted, i would have still been bummed out over the H0035/2000 caseback serial I cant win. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Don't know where you got the H0197/2000 from. Your's is one of the F2052/4000 casebacks which is good for a 111F. However the F series movement has the PANERAIPANERAI engraving instead of the H & onwards CdG stripes. Apart from the wrong dial for this case you have the wrong caseback for a 111H. However, I would also be concerned about that CG - it seems to me that the pin is so close to the edge of the bridge that it has deformed the shape of the bridge piece. The crown looks dire too. Who on earth supplied this POS? It has got so much wrong with it that I'm tempted to suggest that it's one of DSN's 'custom' pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorNA Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 (edited) Don't know where you got the H0197/2000 from. Your's is one of the F2052/4000 casebacks which is good for a 111F. However the F series movement has the PANERAIPANERAI engraving instead of the H & onwards CdG stripes. Apart from the wrong dial for this case you have the wrong caseback for a 111H. However, I would also be concerned about that CG - it seems to me that the pin is so close to the edge of the bridge that it has deformed the shape of the bridge piece. The crown looks dire too. Who on earth supplied this POS? It has got so much wrong with it that I'm tempted to suggest that it's one of DSN's 'custom' pieces. I did a HUGE edit on this post. Ok. so let me clear that up.... I ordered a PAM 112H from TT. Figured I like the luminor base without the seconds hand. I then got thsi watch, which says radiomir. So the back looks ok but it looks like its for an F series, not an H series. It says F2052/4000 - but if that is for a P111, then I received a P111F caseback on a watch that was supposed to be a P112H. So not only is the caseback wrong if you are saying that F2052 is standard, then The dial is obviously wrong as well. so instead of getting a p112H, i got caseback for p111F (which is wrong anyway because it doenst have the paneraipanerai, and dial of radiomir, LOL Edited January 22, 2009 by JuniorNA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 so instead of getting a p112H, i got caseback for p111F (which is wrong anyway because it doenst have the paneraipanerai, and dial of radiomir, LOL So what happened to H0197/2000 caseback and where did you get that serial from...?! Confusion abounds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projectologist Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 For the "F Series" Panerai... both the 111 and 113 numbered 4000 units produced. Robert in SoCal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikerblade Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Take the $25 hit & send it back. like PAMman said its a POS & thats being polite. It's up to you if you would ever use the same dealer again but if thats not proof of dropshipping I don't know what is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorNA Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 So what happened to H0197/2000 caseback and where did you get that serial from...?! Confusion abounds... Yeah i was off on that. I didnt have the watch in hand and I thought I saw an H, and as soon as I saw it wasnt a 0035, i just made up a number. but clearly over exaggerated and it was F2052 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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