Prsist Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'm a newbie so bare with. His watches seem higher than other sites I visited. My only purchase so far is trustys SD lite. I put my dp on a WM9 SD. How does his stuff compare with the cartel? Stupid newbie question but is he in the cartel? Trying to figure out where his quality lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 He sells MBW/MBK Rolex reps, which are famous for being able to accept many genuine Rolex parts (crystal, crown, tube, etc) with little or no modification. While they are by no means perfect out of the box (all reps contain inaccuracies), they can be modified to come very close to looking like the real thing. There are scores of threads that discuss MBW watches & the modifications members have devised for them that you can find via the Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLudlowe Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Wow! You managed to get into Euro's new site? It won't let me in for anything - I must have gone through the registration process a half dozen times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clamul Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Wow! You managed to get into Euro's new site? It won't let me in for anything - I must have gone through the registration process a half dozen times same problem for me, impossible to get into the site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceclimber Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I just registered and entered.... took 5 mins and an e-mail authet and I was in... is it fixed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLudlowe Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I just registered and entered.... took 5 mins and an e-mail authet and I was in... is it fixed? Perhaps it only works for people on Chris' "preferred" list - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricanes52 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'm a newbie so bare with. His watches seem higher than other sites I visited. My only purchase so far is trustys SD lite. I put my dp on a WM9 SD. How does his stuff compare with the cartel? Stupid newbie question but is he in the cartel? Trying to figure out where his quality lies. Hey i am new here also and need help understaning these accronyms. who/what is the cartel? what does WM9 and MBW/MBK mean? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Hey i am new here also and need help understaning these accronyms. who/what is the cartel? what does WM9 and MBW/MBK mean? Thanks. Welcome. Please read the noob guide in my signature or search for these items on the top left of the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helen001 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Do anyone here know about the Asia website watchtang.com ? For the euro website ,do they have their own factory there ,how is the quality ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubz Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Site looks like its a ripoff of trusty time, all the same pics and info for the watches with more expensive prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider87 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I don't understand the cartel thing quite yet.... I have tried searching but all I find is a bunch of offhand mentions of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browngo1 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) Eurotimez prices are slightly higher because they don't dropship and they carry out their own quality control checks. This means that there is less chance of someone getting a watch with the cyclops postioned wrongly or a bracelet with a dodgy clasp, etc. etc. If anyone has registered and can't access the new site send Chris an email and he'll get it sorted for you, he normally replies within 24 hrs. Have a look at his post below for more information about Eurotimez: http://www.rwg.cc/members/Introduction-t68845.html Edited March 4, 2009 by browngo1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Eurotimez prices are slightly higher because they don't dropship and they carry out their own quality control checks. This means that there is less chance of someone getting a watch with the cyclops postioned wrongly or a bracelet with a dodgy clasp, etc. etc. http://www.rwg.cc/members/Introduction-t68845.html Yeah right. Chris DOES dropship! He's in Thailand and dropships from China. It's still a role of the dice. No reason to pay extra! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browngo1 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Yeah right. Chris DOES dropship! He's in Thailand and dropships from China. It's still a role of the dice. No reason to pay extra! Hey, I'm only trying to pass on info I've found on here from other members. I know Chris is in Thailand and the reps come from China, all I'm trying to say is that an order is not sent out direct from the factory. According to what I've learned here, Chris gets someone in China to give each order a once over, after it leaves the factory, before it gets shipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailboss Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 No, Chris has a watchmaker in China who chks his stock before it is shipped out. All stock passes thru his CN operation and does not come direct from the wholesaler as do many others. Yes he is more expensive. He has never tried to compete on price but relies on a quality product. He is one of the few folk with propper Noobmarriners for example. His dearer subs are a combination of a noob dial and MBW case and if Chris says "ETA" that's what you get unlike most places. It's up to the indervidual to decide if paying a bit more is worth it for the QC he gives. He also spells out his return and warrenty terms in plain english. Chris is one of a small handfull of dealers I trust to answer any question I put to him with 100% honesty. The other advantage of Chris is like another cpl of dealers he can, for a few dollars more ship from inside the EU so there is no customs risk if you live in places such as Italy or Belgium who are very tough on reps. Some terms asked about above: MBW: Marias Best Watch. A company based in Thailand who have made quality Rolex and Patak reps for a long time. Now rumered to have some very nice Pams in the pipeline. WM9: Watchmaker 9. A Taiwan based dealer who specialises in quality if somewhat expensive Rolex reps. Proberly "the best sub" especialy if purchased thru BKLM here on the forum. He does extra QC and some mods to make them even better. Some current debate exists over WM9s claims of "solid gold" in his TT bracelets but one way or the other they are still head and shoulders above all others tho the TT Noob from Chris and others is close enough for most. The Cartel: An aledged cartel that is said to comprise of Josh and Andrew along with one or two others depending on who you ask. Alegations surfaced concerning price fixing and standover tactics involving strong arming other dealers offering lower prices that have never been solidly proven to the satisfaction of many here. Search and read here and at RWI and make up your own mind. Regards, Col. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David74 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 the site works fine and I already placed an order MBW/MBK photos do not load is a pity he uses flashplayer to show his watches, cause is impossible to past the pics here and discuss of the reps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulanito_uk Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 is a pity he uses flashplayer to show his watches, cause is impossible to past the pics here and discuss of the reps Taken from the web site... of course you can Below just ordered this from him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 According to what I've learned here, Chris gets someone in China to give each order a once over, after it leaves the factory, before it gets shipped. Than what's the difference with Andew, Josh or any other Asian dealer? They too have qualified/ trained (bla bla) personell who hand pick the watch from the shelff in the warehouse.... I've seen perfectly greased reps from Josh and andrew as well! Potato patato it's all the same The Cartel: An aledged cartel that is said to comprise of Josh and Andrew along with one or two others depending on who you ask. Alegations surfaced concerning price fixing and standover tactics involving strong arming other dealers offering lower prices that have never been solidly proven to the satisfaction of many here. Search and read here and at RWI and make up your own mind. I think it's all a marketing hoax. If he can get reps outside the cartel and directly from the source in China why isn't he any cheaper? Instead he claims doing all these checks and marks up the price with another $30.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David74 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Taken from the web site... of course you can Below just ordered this from him! ok me donkey u saved the webpage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailboss Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 ok me donkey u saved the webpage? Nope. Me thinks that wouldn't work either. I would say it's a screen shot taken with a screen capture program tho there is software that can capture whole flash animations as well. Than what's the difference with Andew, Josh or any other Asian dealer? They too have qualified/ trained (bla bla) personell who hand pick the watch from the shelff in the warehouse.... Because they don't. All Josh's stuff is shipped by Andrew's supplier according to Josh (passed in a PM by him to lord remembers who and posted at RWG1 ages ago). Ever noticed how the PKGs are exactly the same? Josh and possibily Andrew's people never even see the watches. With ET it goes to a place operated by and excluisivly for Chris and staff on his payroll examine them. Thus the far fewer grumbles you hear about crooked markers and missaligned date wheels regarding Chris. Are you telling me all Jandrews ETA's actualy are ETA's? How about the crystals? How many Saphire ones have we seen that arn't? How about the "improved" sec@6? I have bought from Josh in the past and have been quite happy with what I have recived but the LWLs (little white lies) are just too frequent for me to trust anything they say now. If it's a basic cheapie I will still buy from him but for the top end stuff I would rather pay a bit more for peace of mind. If you're happy with Josh, well and good. That's your right. Chances are good that you will get your watch. If there is a problem and send it back yes, it will be fixed/replaced but I would rather have it right the first time with out having to work out what is BS and what is truth while wadeing thru the website. I don't like being lied to. Period. Don't think I'm picking on Jandrew here. There are a lot of dealers here with the same LWL problem. Nearly every cheap sub is sold as a noob for example yet only a small portition of them come from the noob factory and the bits about ETA's and saphire are allmost universal. I know which is which and I'm shure you do to but it makes it very hard for the newbies to tell WTF they are actualy buying. As for the ETA thing, that's gotta be down to trust in your dealer and I don't have that level of trust in Jandrew or quite a few of the others anymore. Chris is not the only choice for a good dealer by any means but he is a reliable one. Regards, Col. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Because they don't. All Josh's stuff is shipped by Andrew's supplier according to Josh (passed in a PM by him to lord remembers who and posted at RWG1 ages ago). Ever noticed how the PKGs are exactly the same? Josh and possibily Andrew's people never even see the watches. With ET it goes to a place operated by and excluisivly for Chris and staff on his payroll examine them. Thus the far fewer grumbles you hear about crooked markers and missaligned date wheels regarding Chris. Are you telling me all Jandrews ETA's actualy are ETA's? How about the crystals? How many Saphire ones have we seen that arn't? How about the "improved" sec@6? I have bought from Josh in the past and have been quite happy with what I have recived but the LWLs (little white lies) are just too frequent for me to trust anything they say now. If it's a basic cheapie I will still buy from him but for the top end stuff I would rather pay a bit more for peace of mind. If you're happy with Josh, well and good. That's your right. Chances are good that you will get your watch. If there is a problem and send it back yes, it will be fixed/replaced but I would rather have it right the first time with out having to work out what is BS and what is truth while wadeing thru the website. I don't like being lied to. Period. Don't think I'm picking on Jandrew here. There are a lot of dealers here with the same LWL problem. Nearly every cheap sub is sold as a noob for example yet only a small portition of them come from the noob factory and the bits about ETA's and saphire are allmost universal. I know which is which and I'm shure you do to but it makes it very hard for the newbies to tell WTF they are actualy buying. As for the ETA thing, that's gotta be down to trust in your dealer and I don't have that level of trust in Jandrew or quite a few of the others anymore. Chris is not the only choice for a good dealer by any means but he is a reliable one. You have some good points but Chis and I share the same native language and we've talked a lot over Skype. I know how his business operates and who does and does not work for him 'exclusively'..... I'm not flaming him, don't get me wrong. I just want to keep some things in perspective as there really isn't a lot of difference between the way these dealers do business. This too needs to be clear to all the noobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulanito_uk Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) ok me donkey u saved the webpage? hahah real easy hit print screen on the web site then paste it in the basic windows paint.. crop it and save as a jepg.. simplez Edited March 4, 2009 by fulanito_uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David74 Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 hahah real easy hit print screen on the web site then paste it in the basic windows paint.. crop it and save as a jepg.. simplez thx buddy .. now i'm an expert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1FAN Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 For what it's worth ET (Chris) has great communication and follow up systems in place with this new website. I am pretty impressed with the whole process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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