highoeyazmuhudee Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Hi FxrAndy I am interested, please sort me out, Looks great!!! MG +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdoc Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) It looks great ! But what is the difference with the XAC 342.594 from Sternkreuz ? I put this model on my cheap snoopy Edited May 12, 2009 by docdoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Hey docdoc whered you source your crystal? Hey docdoc whered you source your crystal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted May 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I have a gen crystal (1970s) in my hands and i just mesured it at 34.01mm, Now the big problem we have is the gen plexy is an armored type with a tension ring fitted inside coloured mat grey same as the dial, we have a silver deap flat rehaut so our dials sit deaper, i had the 70s gen in today but did not get time to do any comparison shots, a shallower dome by 0.7mm will make the overall hight perfect but the dial will still be too deep, painting the rehaut would take away the shine but not the depth, I have just ordered a larger (so i can get rid of the saphire retaining ring) shallower (to get the overall height right) plexy to see if that helps the over all effects but i am sceptical What ever we do we will still have the depth problem and how ever hard we work on the crystals it will not change the subdials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted May 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 It looks great ! But what is the difference with the XAC 342.594 from Sternkreuz ? I put this model on my cheap snoopy The problem is that it is an armored type with a tension ring and unless you remove the ring you will have a double rehaut, it may not be a problem on yours but on the cases that has the seagul chrono that would be a massive dual coloured rehaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdoc Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Got mine from cousin. You are right Andy. The glass is a thing but the subdials flaw is way harder to fix. Hope the new speedmaster series with the new 7750 movement may solve the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted May 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Just ordered a lower dome to see how that looks, need to loose 0.7mm in height any way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdoc Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) The problem is that it is an armored type with a tension ring and unless you remove the ring you will have a double rehaut, it may not be a problem on yours but on the cases that has the seagul chrono that would be a massive dual coloured rehaut I checked with my extra plexi and the tension metal ring can be removed super easily (it's pop out with a pression of my nail). Maybe if you sandpaper the rehaut, you might win the 0.7mm you are looking for? Edited May 13, 2009 by docdoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdoc Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 For those interested in the domed glass moonie, here is the refs that can be purchased from Ofrei, I guess. It has the etched omega logo in the center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 All be aware that the GEN glas does not fit the rep case that i have it is too small (the glass) I have tried a gen crystal tonight Try 2 is using a Sternkreuz 340 lentille (normal gewolbt) Now the 340 is a tad to small so i think a 341/2 is needed here as i had to glue this one in but the shape is what i am looking for, Same problems as before though shinny dep rehaute that we wont be able to get rid of, you could paint it but it will still be too deep. height is now 13.3mm so a bit thinner than gen. Perfect sollution 1. move crown tube up 1.5mm 2. lower rehaute by 0.5mm 3. Taper rehaute to meet inside edge of crystal 4. install sternkreuz hidome 341 5. paint what is left of rehaute mat blak to match dial 6. Live with wrong subdial spacing 7. Live with what is still the wrong rehaute but it is better or Give up and buy the gen or wait for a new generation rep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 so the 341 is what to buy? no glue needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 proberberly but not tested, it may be a 342. next time i make an order i will get them both and try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdoc Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) good to know that the gen don't fit. Sorry for the confusion ! So far, Andy your mod look very very good !!! wait for a new generation rep That is what I am waiting for. I read that Josh is aware of a new speedmaster generation using the modified 7750. But there is no date of release yet Edited May 21, 2009 by docdoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I dont think the new gen speedy will be perfect or even a moon watch. Ive had zero problems with the venus movement over two watches over two years plus the display back is awesome and a legit case back for gens. But i guess we'll have to wait and see what this new generation of speed rep looks like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmacnz Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Is there a final answer?! 34.2??? with no glue? Thanks Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I think that was the final answer on my case yes, but i have done a couple more where the case size was different from mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmacnz Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Thanks alot Andy, Have just ordered 4 x 34.2 so will see how that goes, I also got some hypo cement just incase! Now i better order the watch!! haha Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Having the watch would help yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I bought my speedy second hand and already modded. Mine is the windup with saphire glass back and I think the same one in your original post Andy. Whoever did mine must have used super glue... because it looks as though fumes got to the inside of the crystal and clouded it. You can also see glue all over the inside and rehaut has been painted. I want to redo this Andy.. and I just looked up sternkreuz on Ebay I see there are at least six versions of 336 on ebay at the moment. I am at loss of what to get. I will probably ask Jmb to do this for me. Current situation with fogged plexi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 That one cant be the one in my original post as that had a frozen subdial at 6, i went in the end for the low dome "HW" one other wise it looks too deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 So it could a different size. Mine is the handwind lemania ST something. It's a common rep with the glass back. I guess I'll order one of the lower domes and see how it fits. They are pretty cheap crystals..if it's too small/large I'll go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 So it could a different size. Mine is the handwind lemania ST something. It's a common rep with the glass back. I guess I'll order one of the lower domes and see how it fits. They are pretty cheap crystals..if it's too small/large I'll go from there. As I said I have seen 3 different sizes and they were all handwind st with display backs get the watch first and then measure it. You never know I may have the crystal you need in my spares as I always order the one I want one smaller and one larger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontknow Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Current situation with fogged plexi FYI- just a little car model building trick... To make it somewhat "lookable" you can always pop the movement out and use just a bit of Mop & Glo on the inside of the crystal to "clear up" the fogging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 FYI- just a little car model building trick... To make it somewhat "lookable" you can always pop the movement out and use just a bit of Mop & Glo on the inside of the crystal to "clear up" the fogging. Thanks, I may try that...but another issue is the edge of the crystal where it is glued is a mess too. You can see the installer was not too tidy on this effort. I bought it on another forum last year and the seller did not disclose any of the modding info. I was a bit mad about it...but the guy was a highly respected member there with an enormous post count, I was new and didn't say anything..lesson learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddc Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 It may be the pictures since it is difficult to photograph but it seems to me that the gen's glass has straighter edges. Mine is a broad arrow GMT so it may not be the exact model of your rep but take a look at my gen... Can you notice the almost vertical sides?...iPad camera sucks btw... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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