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Ya well I sent RBJ a TT Sub to mod and give it his "spa" treatment - I was stupid enought to enclose $250 cash in the package. When I didn't get an e-mail from him for awhile I called him, remember he gave out his home phone number? Anyway, I call him, asking if he safely got my package, he tells me his entire dining room is filled with unopened packages, laughing, he thought it was funny. No log for when the package came in, nothing. He had to dig to find my package and call me back, it took him another 4 months until I got my watch from him. I was not impressed.

great watch!

I'm humbled to be mentioned in your beautiful post my friend I must say I feel the same way about RwG I just couldn't have put it into words anywhere near as well as you have :notworthy: Looking forward to your next 1000 posts Legend !

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr that looks indeed awesome! I can't wait! Thanks for the teaser Monito!

Sorry but im going to have to disagree with you on that, there are many watches out there that pose to be a sound investment. If you choose the correct watch you can be sure to recoup most of your money and still be able to enjoy it. I purchased my 16613ln in dec 97 for 5k, i beleive today the value is between 4 or 5k, id say thats pretty good. Modern rollies in non precious metal version are def not worth it imho thery are more of just statements (except for the daytona).

Took me a couple of weeks to get around to taking these, but I'm really enjoying this one. 111N V3 on Panatime Vintage Tobacco. Love how the reddish brown pops with the black stitching and the black face:

Just got the word fellas! The new ceramic bezel Omega Planet Ocean will be out in 3-4 Weeks!!!!Woooohoooooo!

+3...v1 arabic white dial Navi, v1 Series Speciale and orig no-date Chronomatic...

Gaahhhhh, I hate to say this, because I DETEST Subarus (spit spit spit, I said it and it left a terrible taste in my mouth) Go with the Subaru (spit spit spit). Not because of the US Ski Team, that's all marketing. Do it because they have: a modicum of ground clearance they're light they have AWD they have big windows. If you're using unplowed driveways you need ground clearance. Front-wheel drive should be okay. If they're unplowed uphill driveways, you need AWD or better, 4WD. Don't bother with the chains, you won't use them. Low range is not necessary for snow driving. That's for hard, technical offroading or pulling someone out of a ditch. At home we often get big snow dumps overnight and I'll go to work knowing I need to clear it when I get back home. So I often have to drive uphill through as much as 3 feet of new snow, and my Land Rover always makes it, because it has ground clearance, real 4WD and real snow tires..

...and fresh coffee. Perfect after a gnarly mtn bike ride.

If the gen slide rule is from an Old Navitimer it should fit the gen dial fine. But the potential problem is if it fits the rep bezel. did you measure the internal & external diameter of the gen slide rule? Unfortunately I dont have a rep slide rule dimensions to hand but can easily check later. My rep Navi crystal is on its way back from AR coating....

However if you dont know the property market you could walk away with nothing and by the same logic if you know your Rolex's etc then you could make a considerable amount of money !! Most people dont buy any luxury goods for an investment... but there are some that can and do make a significant amount of money on buying watches... most people buy a watch for a staus or reward reason... You speak to most guys wearing an expensive watch and say "Nice watch" they reply "Yeah! Its a Panerai " etc..... They dont say "Yeah! Its a Limited edition vintage model with 4 complications" etc thats because they dont care... Its a Panerai, Its expensive and its says something about them to them... The simple truth is most people buy an expensive watch because its expensive and they dont like reps because it undermines that sense of expense... any other reason will relate to smaller minority of buyers who buy for reasons stated in this thread... but they and we are the absolute minority.... in the same way we on the whole dont buy reps to pass them off as gen.... The majority of gen buyers are the same as the majority of rep buyers.... they are looking to say something to others around them about themselves....the only difference is the money... the reasoning is the same... and the lack of understanding of watches is the same (In the majority of cases)

I've not bothered joining RG. Is it a good place to be banned from?

A great review as always my friend and the watch looks great now. The v1 end links are very good, a shame they changed them on the next watch version! Enjoy wearing in good health buddy and nice to see you back on the forum!!:-)

People at all levels of social stratification work very hard to get to a certain level of success and prosperity measured against their peers. This success is represented by status and quality of their property and social circles. Facebook counted on this. So most people live in neighborhoods that reflect their level success and often choose cars, clothes, food, and other discretionary, and non discretionary items this way. Luxury watches are no different. So if you work really hard, or live a life of privilege, and the symbols of your social circles are GEN Daytonas, you will expect to have a certain rapport even with strangers sporting GEN Daytonas. And chances are you will have some common ground that is acceptable within your in-common social strata. If the person is wearing a rep AND they do not belong at your social level, you will wonder about their credibility, honesty, and many other things. Why some people actually get angry is hard to say but it probably has to do with taking offense in a personal way. That rep wearer does not deserve to wear the same symbols that I wear, or the fact that there are frauds among us cheapens our worth. Just speculating on your interesting subject

A friend of mine lent me this watch over the weekend, as I will be writing about it as part of an article. On a whim, I posted a wrist-shot last night and, boy, was the response positive. Bowing to popular request, here is my quickie review of this beautiful Zenith... How tough has life been for Zenith since 1969? The El Primero is probably the most famous movement in watch history, yet Zenith has struggled to establish its own identity: "I finally bought the watch of my dreams. Check out my new Zenith." "You mean like my VCR?" In fact, Zenith Radio Company of Illinois actually bought a controlling share of the Mondia-Zenith-Movado holding company in 1971, which almost killed the El Primero at the tender age of six. Like comically stereotypical movie villains, the bean counters at Zenith USA decreed that its eponymous watch company should henceforth produce only quartz watches, and ordered the destruction of all production equipment for mechanical movements. Horrors! Enter plucky Swiss watchmaker Charles Vermot, who defied the wishes of the barbaric Americans, carefully hiding the tooling and machinery in the attic like, er... (Historical analogy dropped to avoid causing offence.) End result: Zenith's nefarious plans were foiled, and Zenith was saved! The El Primero was resurrected in the mid-80s, just in time for it to reach global superstardom... inside a Rolex. There would be no breakout watch for Zenith, but at least its reputation (and financial security) was cemented by being the engine supplier for the 16500-series Daytona. Fast-forward to the year 2000, Zenith's acquisition by LVMH, and the installation of the abominable Thierry Nataf as CEO the following year. (Historical analogy dropped to avoid causing offence.) Zenith was in for a rough decade, which yielded obscenities like the Defy Xtreme. The silver lining to this brown cloud was that the Zenith brand was mainstreamed like during no other time in its history, mostly thanks to amazon.com reviews like these. Is there no such thing as bad publicity? Let me give Charlie Sheen a call, and see how he's doing... What a relief it was when the Dufour regime took over in 2010, and its first act was to airbrush the Nataf years out of its corporate memory. Glam Rock and Zero-G, say hello to Trotsky and Yezhov. Zenith's signature watch for the year was the El Primero Striking 10th, best known for a sweep hand that zips around the dial in 10 seconds and demonstrating just what 36,000 bph can do for you. The movement was new, but the design was not. Although bigger at 42mm, the case and dial design -particularly the overlapping silver, black, and blue subdials- recalled the 1969 El Primero. 2011's Zenith catalog featured even closer homages to the original El Primeros. ("Original El Primeros" is not only redundant, but an oxymoron, too!) The hexagonal "Vintage 1969" remixed the chunky A384 El Primero, also of 1969. This particular watch, the El Primero 36'000VPH, is the closest homage to the classically styled reference A386. It may not have the trick chronograph of the Striking Tenth, but it still beats 10 times per second. Obviously. And at 38mm, it takes a couple of glances for it to register as a new watch. The '69 El Primero has long been one of my dream watches, so this 2011 model is right up my alley. I love vintage watches in general, but especially appreciate the designs of the 60s and 70s. In fact, there are a couple of details that I wish Zenith had carried over onto this watch. The first is the louche "El Primero" script—shorthand for “luxury”, and so evocative of the era of "soft Correenthean leatherr". In its place is a blocky, sans serif font. So cold. I also don't like the changes made to the subdials. I prefer the big, flat LPs of the original to the contours of the new registers. And on a functional level, why make the silver hour counter the most prominent of the three circles? Put it behind the minute counter and running seconds, where it belongs! I should also note that one friend really had a problem with the star-tailed sweep hand, because it reminded him too much of Tinkerbell's wand. I told him to grow the F up. Minor nits aside, it's very hard to complain about anything on this watch. Just look at it! I would love to own one, but would much prefer finding a '69 El Primero in good condition. Perversely, the originals are cheaper than the reissues, which is also true for blue Heuer Monacos, and most examples of the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. I'd better start selling my fluids again. Are two movement shots really necessary? C'mahn, don't bolshet me. Some quickie review that turned out to be. It looks like I've already finished a large chunk of that article I'm going to write. Thanks for looking, and reading.

This excellent post deserves to be sticky in the "my collection" forum. It's, afterall, the best rep Rolex collection in the community.