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I would personally like to welcome Legendkiller as RWGs first ever diamond member. The diamond membership has one important role and that is to keep RWG alive and cover the costs of running this forum. RWG has grown into a large community and thanks to this, new friendships are formed around the world. This is part of what we feel is unique to RWG. We like to think we are a welcoming community that takes care of our members. The RWG Diamond club is there for the people who are willing to pay a little higher price just to contribute to cover our costs. We won't be able to offer a lot more perks for our diamond members, but they will always have the warm and fuzzy feeling (I can only imagine it must be a bit warmer and fuzzier than the feeling our other contributors get ) that their favorite watch community stay online. That being said; Legendkiller has been asked to be our diamond club manager and he as promised that he will personally take care of some perks for the diamond club members. Even I don't know what this will be! Hopefully, RWG will also be able to offer some special perks for our diamond members once in a while. The diamond membership will be our most exclusive club and the initial price was set to $50 per month. Legendkiller has signed up at this price, but as our diamond club manager, he has decided that the price was too high. He wants more members to join him in our exclusive diamond club room. (Note to self; Have Nanuq start looking for a new location for the admin lounge. I have a suspicion that the diamond club parties next door will be noisy. I even suspect they carried in more cases of champagne there than they delivered to the admin lounge....). As an initial offer, all members will be able to sign up for the diamond club @ $20 per month. Yes, it is pricey, but every penny from all memberships goes towards the costs we have to run this forum. We expect this to be a small club and we will do our very best to be able to offer members here something special, even though that is not the mission of the diamond club memberships So grab your diamond membership here: Upgrade from VIP/platinum to diamond: 1. Log into your account here: http://account.selg.nu/login/index 2. Click here: http://account.selg.nu/signup/index/c/yXT2WFaK2 Upgrade from member-status to diamond: http://account.selg.nu/signup/index/c/9LEjWzUb3 If you have any problems at all upgrading, PM or e-mail me and I will solve it for you asap.

My Project is ready AP Diver V3 -DLC coated -blue superlume -polished endlinks and crowns -AR date lens What do you think???

Got me a V.3.5 AP Diver with SW220 from Rochest and Mary. Their service was absolute top notch and the Diver is incredible! Personally I think the Diver tops my other AP collections (Montauk Highway, Silver theme, Masato) by huge margin. (Thank you members for pointing me to the right direction! ;-) The lume is excellent, all the markings are spot on. the rubber strap is unbelievably comfortable, both crowns feel smooth with just about right tension & clicks, and more over the Diver has this glow that you can only see in real that doesn't exist with other rep APs. (limited to my experience of just 3 models above. but all my collections are current top notch reps available). The 'glow' is something you often experience with Gen watches. The screws on the hazels are slightly recessed at uniform depth ; all 8 of them. can't see it properly on my very amateur photo but huge difference from other AP ROOs. I am 150% satisfied with this purchase. I will post the sw200 movement photos when I get a chance to open up this baby, since Diver v3.5 with sw200 seems to be a rarity apparently. My genuine thanks to Rochest and Mary at WI for supplying me this top notch Diver. (should probably send them a bottle of wine or something ;-) Attached is a quicky wristshot I took while driving (oops!)

Woo who I like the looks of this..<br />

Roger that. Last night I knocked the seconds hand off my Big Dazza. How? Not important. So with the knowledge I've acquired here, I removed the back with a sticky ball of tape, I hacked the movement before pulling the crown I removed the crown/stem safely I removed the case clamp screws and didn't lose any I dropped out the movement and set it in a wooden block I reset the seconds hand using a strip of sticky notes paper I reinstalled the movement and ring, I reinstalled the stem and DIDN'T POOCH THE KEYLESS WORKS I greased the seals and reinstalled the caseback .........all techniques I learned by reading here over the years. Priceless.

I'm in!

Not from Baselworld.

Congrats Legend! Naturally I am tagging along figure the booze is better than the Plat. lounge but it will be hard to outdo DocThor's pics of girls w/watches and only watches ! cc33"3" great to have you in the group !

Done, now where's my champagne!

Your hurting my feelings now Mike, what did I do

Call me Mister Stuck in a Rut

well I have only just got back in after a 3 day siesta, Legendkiller sent me a PM and I followed the link from my email. Ken

You speak the truth. I had a 1680 gen dial in a MBW before and the short minute markers bothered the hell out of me. While it had an jmb aligned silver DWO it just didn't look gen. It didn't give off that same gen brushed silver date wheel that I loved on my gen 1675. Those two things pretty much ruined it for me. Here it was... NTB sourced it all and I bought it off him. Amazing build. All it really needed was a gen movement. With gen 93150 and 585 end links too.

All i can say is that in my life equation, Metallica has been the constant, the rest have revolved around them.

I measured 2 of my gens and 2 of my crystals, all four were exactly the same thickness. !.98mm

PM replied, well deserved spanking sent! Anyway, the clock expired on my offer. I'll list this bad boy on eBay and see what she fetches. I still smell a server donation in the works. Thx for the offer!

Gary said it will be the same thickness as the genuine Rolex. No AR, as the genuine Rolex.

i agree - i'm sticking with my 3.5 until i see what the reviews are for this new rep... looking forward to it!

I was going to 'Like' this comment, but merely liking it wouldn't do it justice. You hit the nail on the head, iCoop. Ditto to Dieselpower & Panerai153. Well said gentlemen.

There are a lot of folks here on this forum who are gen owners. In fact I have at the moment 14 gens and 6 reps. there have been times when the numbers were reversed, and a few years ago, I sold all of my reps except 2 and only had gens.I got back into reps about 5-6 years ago, and for the most part have only modded/franken ones. Quite frankly, I have never worried about other people and what they thought about my watches either gen or rep. As Krusty said, at some point in your life you realize that no one cares, no one really knows, and unless you are working with a bunch of Rolex addicts, the average person can't tell a Rolex from a Timex. When you have that epiphany in your life where you quit worrying about what others think, or what others percieve, it is a truly refreshing feeling. I don't worry about fakes of anything. At my age and my profession, I can carry off just about any watch, except for something like Nadal's Richard Mille!!!! My feelings are the folks who really look down on reps are probably for the most part, pretty vain shallow folks who are lacking in self confidence, and use their cars, clothes, watches, etc. as pretty lame attempts to be something they aren't. I know around here, back in the early 80's the Rolex Day Dates were very popular. We had a lot of people in the Oil and gas business, and wearing a Gold "President" was a symbol to everyone that "you had arrived". unfortunately, the price of oil and gas fell through hte floor, lots of the independents went under, and before long the pawn shops were full of Gold Day Dates!! I bet most of the guys who hocked their watches, realized after a while that the Seiko or Bulova did just as good a job of keeping time, and that not a soul noticed that they were Rolexless!! One of the things that has gotten me a little more interested in Gens is some of the small makers like MKII and Ocean7 are producing some pretty neat watches at a very good price point. Another thing, the gens are easier to get worked on. Any competent watchmaker can take an ETA movement down and parts are readily available. Most of them are very water resistant right out the box, so you don't have to do anything to them except wear them.

Firstly, I would like to say that there is no such thing as a fake watch that runs. If the watch has a movement that works and it tells the time then it is not a 'fake watch' it is a real, actual watch. That's just to the fools who look down on our wonderful hobby. Now, I'd like to address the issue of honesty amongst the gen communiuty. For starters, as far as I can tell the VRF marketplace is infested with franken builders. Great, good luck to them but please don't start looking down your nose at the rep world! They are as guilty of replication as we are. I bet your average VRF franken builder wearing his perfectly formed (from various gen parts) Sub regards his watch as a genuine Rolex product, well I've got news for you - it's not. Only a watch that came out of the Rolex factory and has only ever been worked on by Rolex is a gen. If you have assembled a watch from various parts from various sources then you have made a frankenstein, which is only one step away from a rep. And, whilst we are on the subject what does a gen owner do if his watch breaks and the part required to make it work again is no longer available, at all, anywhere? Then he finds a company or individual who is manufacturing that part in the same material and to the same exacting standards as the original company did. Does he put the watch in his sock drawer and never wear it? No, of course not. He is perfectly within his rights to buy the (rep) part and enjoy his watch again, regardless of what others think. It's still a lovely watch, now it's a lovely watch that works. Good. I own reps and gens. I prefer reps. I like the research and gathering of parts. I like the fact that financially, building reps opens up the availability of the pieces I really like to suit my budget. I like the fact that I can buy parts piece by piece thus spreading the cost rather than having to blow thousands in one hit. I like the fact that a decent rep is like sticking two finger up the the gen companies because I strongly suspect that their 'swiss made' pieces are far from 100% Swiss. “It is not generally known that quite a few Swiss companies have watches assembled in China for export to North America, Asia and even Europe, where the brand name is more important that the “Swiss made” label. Such watches may consist of a Chinese case and a Chinese crystal, a Taiwan-made dial and metal bracelet and Japanese hands. If the movement is to be considered Swiss, 51% of its value must be Swiss and at least the last wheel must be added in Switzerland. Swiss watch brands without the “Swiss made” label are usually equipped with a Japanese movement. The “Swiss parts” label means that the movement is assembled in Asia using kits consisting at least partially of Swiss made components.” The Swiss law is quite complicated when it comes to what is swiss made and what is not - some say this is by design but it seems that if 50% of the value (note - value, not quantity) of the parts are made in switzerland and the movement is encased in Switzerland then you can legally call it a swiss made watch. So, if Rolex had parts for their movements made in China but 50% of the value of the total parts (ie a few expensive bits) were made in Switzerland and the movement was encased in Switzerland then you have got yourself a genuine Swiss Rolex. I'm sorry but that's not good enough for me. I'd rather be honest about a watch and say to whoever it may concern that I am a hobbyist who amasses parts and has his favourite watches built by skilled people and yes, they are real watches and yes they are waterproof and yes they keep excellent time and yes they will withstand the same amount of wear and abuse as one that came out of Rolex's swiss/chinese factories and yes they can cost thousands to make etc etc. Rant over...

When he was around, and if you came across someone whom you thought was wearing a rep, you would say "Jetmid?" And the person should reply "is my hero". Never had the nerve to try that one out.