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Very valid points! I have been always sceptical for decades about this very whole topic ! I guess that at some point we draw the line psychologically as to the balance of probabilities of what may be beyond reasonable doubt to what is the real deal or not! Most of this horological subject is predominantly based on the the preowned and vintage market! So those that are comfortable in giving the benefit of the doubt on what is highly likely to be real or not continue to sail on! Lets be honest that unless you have walked out of an authorised dealer with a new timepiece with seals on it, then you will always have that slimmest shadow of doubt as to the origin of what you have! Even walking out of an authorised dealer is not an absolute certainty either! Why? When I bought my last new genuine? Datejust from the local authorised dealer some 20 years ago, she ( some 20 year old gorgeous looking saleswoman) removed the seals off my watch while getting the boxes and paperwork ready for me! She also said that I had a cooling off period to return it back within a certain time frame if not worn, which I do not remember what it was! I could have easily changed the case with a replica case that would have been perfectly worked on it with serial numbers and all! Very Difficult to do but not impossible! Therefore I came to peace of mind that if I was to be part of this hobby, I would either forever put any doubts out of my head and enjoy or pull out and move onto a different hobby. If it smells like a dog, barks like a dog , looks like a dog and licks you or bites you like a dog, then it must be a dog! So if perfect forger can replicate a case to the point that it will pass the authorised service centre, then I will accept it as such and forever hold my peace! Let’s be honest that it is apiece of manufactured item and not a diamond nor a rare Opel, nor gold that has been forged. Many times I have even asked myself if both items are made from the same place and just marketed different! In today’s world with the exposure of past scandals that we never knew about, nothing surprises me!! if it is as good as the original, then all chances are that it is the original! I don’t have a problem with any replica that I have owned as any special touches and modifications made pretty much makes them hand made! I truly prize my jackjo super seadweller at the same level as some of my genuine pieces! I see nothing special with the genuine pieces when reflecting on their price tag! In some ways it is all in the mind! will get off my soap box!😀

Two Quartz = Half a Gallon. Both were given to me free needing batts. Two batts and two straps later and they are Alive! Imho Seiko Kinetics are an answer to a question never asked. They are tough as nails though. Always liked the Cit-Eco Min-Reps, a classy design and the Campanola models are first class...imho. The Campanolas are hand assembled. Retro-Graph and Rep-O-Graph... Motor Time Drift Pro-Am 'retro-graph' with Seiko Mecha-quartz movement. Flat MG crystal swapped out for acrylic domed crystal to give it more 'retro'. Cushion shaped 42mm case, plastic crystal, black 22mm ZRC strap...a cool flashback to the 1970s. 'Rep-o-Graph' is from 10 or 12 years back with Seagull ST 19. Sooner or later, you'll realize a $50 watch and a $10,000 watch both do the same thing.