I just bought a gen, i spent all my savings that i had been saving since 94, i am not a rich person, However i could afford to buy this just once, I could have had any number of breitlings, omegas but i was put off by the fact the rep is soooo good. Ok i bougt and Ingy, and the rep is just as good but the difference is inside, The breitling cal 17 is just a well put together eta 2824, the coaxial in the omega is a well made modified 2892, i could have a number of these but i went for the ingy because I like the way it looks and what is inside. And you know what i have had the rep on my wrist all bar a few hours since i got the gen. At the end of the day i dont think the lower end gens (ETA based) are worth the money.