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I have the U1 with Swiss movement. I was hearing about a lot of problems witht he cheaper movment so went with the Swiss movement. I am sure it is made in China and is not a Real swiss ETA but it works well. Smooth seconds also and keeps Ok time. Easy to adjust if you are picky. Mine is on the fast side so i will wait a few months to see if it settles down. the quality is superb. I normally don't like rubber straps but this one is the best I have ever seen and is the most comfortable watch to wear. You need to be carful in sizing the strap as there are no microadjustments and take into consideration you wrists may swell in the summer or you gain weights so I suggest cutting the stap to be to big and slowly shortening it over time. You cna't make the strap bigger once you cut it to short! The prices have come down. I got mine for $ 198 delivered to the USA from www.asian7750.com and the transaction went well with the dealer doing a look over the watch and setting the time and date..winding the watch and checking back the next day to see it was accurate time (also to see if it had power reserve). This dealer is near the factory and can return it get another if it fails verses have the factory drop ship you a lemon. The Factories hire BLIND QC or incompetant people. steve

The bracelts will be available by the end of the year according to a reputable dealer. you can also buy the bracelet aftwards for guys who got the rubber strap version. steve

I am also wondering how relible are the 21J movements. I spoke to Both Josh (Pc clones) and Andrew (trusty) and they both say that they have NEW ETA movements and not Asian Clones or Rebuilt or rejected Swiss ETA. I basically don't know who to belive. I do know it is Very hard to get New ETA movements. I will start looking at some other dealers offerings. Steve

Check out www.watcheden.com Look at the Graham Chronodiver quartz, Oris Coste Decoste Quartz, Tag Heur Tigerwoods etc. many more. Reliable movement.

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lug width is 21mm. i own the V3 Asian clone. Steve

The Swiss ETA and Asian Clone ETA both have saphire and 28 K beats per minute. The $ 130 Asian clone 21J is mineral crystal no matter what the Dealer says. It still is a nice watch for the $. I just got the Asian Clone ETA and it is nice. There is a problem with the bracelets breaking at the clasp . I removed mine while the dealer sends me out a new one. I put the watch on a Maratac 20mm nylon two piece Zulu (very heavy duty and professional) until the new clasp arrives. one flaw I found was the printing on the side of the watch when you remove the Steel bracelet and put on the nylon strap. The engraving that says "stainless steel" is printed at a slant (not level). I am not a nitpicker but felt I had to bring it up. I am more concerned about the watch functioning and not falling apart. I may keep this watch for special occations as it is so nice. I love showing my rich brother in law my reps. He has many expensive reps and is impressed with a few of my reps for the $. If you travel and your rep gets broken or ripped off you are not out $ 4000 or more. Due to the large watch head it feels top heavy even on the metal bracelet. I think Rolex should have made a 24mm straight (non tapering) bracelet rather thatn the 21mm tappering bracelet. It looks sort of wierd but still nice. I like the watch and hope they improve the clasp reliability. Steve

I have been seeing an increase in these Deep Sea Clasp requests on two other forums which is not a good sign. Is this the Version 2 or 3 clasp?. I have a Version 3 on the way. Steve

I think the Swiss ETA and Asian ETA clone have Sapphire and the 21 J has Mineral crystal ( $ 130 ). However, I have heard conflicting reports from guys saying the 21 J is offered in both Sapphire and Mineral Crystal ? I went for the Asian ETA and expect it in the next few days.

I will wait till jacky gets back from Vacation and I am back from my Job traveling. He said he would be back by Fed 15th. I am not sure if he has a return policy like Watch Eden does. If I get a dead watch I am willing to send it back but don't want the same one back. In t he past I sent back a dead time peice back and forth to China and the shipping was getting big. Steve

I am in the same boat. Not sure which one to order. Watch eden has a extra promotion. You get the regular $ 20 coupon plus another $ 20 coupon if you cna be patient. They have a holiday and the watch will not ship till Fed 2nd. The 21j costs $ 148 minus the $ 40 in coupons it will cost you $ 108 delivered (up to 14 days to USA) to your house. The only negative is the the crystal is mineral on the 21J and the movement is a a bit choppy but should be as reliable as the Asian ETA clone. I would get the Swiss ETA but have ordered and paid for it int he past and had a dead watch in a few weeks. I then take the back off the watch and find it is the Asian Clone. Guys take off their back cases and take pics for the internet and I can see I got ripped off. I don't have any trust anymore. Steve

http://www.timetechtalk.com/view_forum.php?id=32 This is the site.

There is a quartz version as well. You can bget the watches deeply dicounted on another watch forum. I think I book marked it on my work computer. Steve

There is a quartz version for about $ 130 (I can't recall) from www.watcheden.com It is quartz with mineral crystal but has the same case and strap. I have had great luck with quartz and will not buy asian automatics. My wife said why do i get all [censored] off sending Out of box failures that never should have been shipped to me in the first place. I finally decided to stay with quartz. It reminds me of a local restaurant we would go to. The service and food were spotty and the owner/manager didn't really care as he was the only guy in the local area. Well down the street two nice places opened up and they are packed and his place is now dead. What comes around goes around. He claims his former customers will come back once they try the new place and the newness wears off. Not true.