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I sure do love to surf on that third wave Regards Gunnar (thank you for that convoluted compliment phil....or are you way ahead of me on the ocean?)

Great links Love that PATEK PHILIPPE 5134R TravelTime

I know the feeling but I have started to like wearing SS bracelets after having owned a OMEGA SMP IMHO there is no point getting this watch withouth the bracelet..take it off and out on a strap from a $100 Asian VC and be happy Archibald

Here are the RWG collaboration I ski... http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96781308/K=ski+sick...5/pmgearski.wmv

I have no problems with E-GOLD

You did tell us but not all were listening I've also heard this: ETA Valjoux 7750 automatic chronograph replica commonly referred to by internet retaillers as 'Automatic Cal. 8850' or Millionsmart 8850 Million Smart Enterprises have been offering these Cal. 8850 for a couple of years. Although Million Smart are based in Kowloon, their manufacturing is done in Shenzhen. Unclear is whether Million Smart manufacture their own movements or finish ebauches bought from other factories or if this movement has undergone a couple of revisions (including new dial layouts), so it is said to be edging towards being a calibre in its own right rather than simply a copy of the Valjoux. I guess that is what The Zigmeister has told and shown us earlier. Pictures of the 8850 http://www.anyboard.net/rec/wusimages/uploads/DSCF5282.JPG http://www.anyboard.net/rec/wusimages/uploads/DSCF5283.JPG http://www.anyboard.net/rec/wusimages/uploads/DSCF5284.JPG

And there is more to come cornerstone Gran

"If I remember the pictures of these copy 2892's, the dead giveaway was two items, one the ETA 2892 is left sprung, which means the hairspring direction from the stud is towards the left, the picture I saw showed a hairsping right studded... and the other giveaway was that the stud and regulator were not ETA. ETA uses removable studs and regulators, whereas the Asian ones are riveted... Haven't seen one first hand, so I can't comment on quality or workmanship. RG" Regards Gunnar

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Very nice collection and we love your photo skills too Regards Gunnar

Thanks guys Glad that I am back in the game I think it would be very interesting to know if the production facilities that supply the SEA-GULL movements also make parts that are being used for the producing of SWISS ETAs If there is no ETA stamp is it really a 2892?or is it actually a SEA-GULL movement with the same rotor as on a 2892? Who knows? I guess The Zigmeister could make the call

I am not sure we can say that they make the reps but for sure we can safely conclude that that the exact same parts go into making of the replicas

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Thanks Ken! Just imagine how much more I could have found if I only could read Chinese symbols... :cc_chinese: Another Chinese producer have adopted the SEIKO look:

@RT Maybe the price will drop instead considering the volumes these guys produce Some more movements we recognize from our replicas: Gran

You infidel

Thanks and who knows? Besides the TS stand for Tanjin Seagull Regards Gunnar

There seem to be lots of different versions of the ST-17 (1701-X) series calibre maybe Sea-Gull has 15-20 different layouts using this basic movement

Cant argue with that Estaban

Yes! that is fairly correct infinitime! and see this thread for a few of these movements: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=3760&hl=

Dear watch nuts Today iI have searched and search the internet for these Asian movements found in our replicas and who makes them. Here is a pictorial but partial answer to that. These are Chinese made. It appears that the so called "Asian movements" pictured are made by the company Sea-Gull and their collaborators. It has been clear for a long time that Sea-Gull has had the Asian venus 175 (ST-19 on my list) but now also the other movements that we see used in VC and JLC and other replicas seem to be produced by Sea-Gull as well. The movements appears to the (in my eyes) to be of high quality as far as Chinese movements go. They also produce the retorgrade date and power reserve (reserve de marche) movements seen used in som pretty accurate but Asian VC and JLC replicas. You can also see some movements with a bridge (ST-25) like on the modern ROLEX calibers and rotor (ST-18) as seen on the ETA-2892...I guess Klink has been correct all along regarding what the Chinese are able to do. Maybe there is a Sea-Gull movement more or less identical to the ETA-2836 or 2824 as well..I am not sure...we will probably hear and see more about this later. Hope this has been of some interest Regards Gunnar Gran

It does work

Glad to hear that

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@JF Is it hard work dating models? I have no idea but she looks like a lot of enjoyment hope you are enjoying Happy Days Gunnar