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As I recall, it seems like those are two part rivets, which snap together in the middle. Check out www.ofrei.com/ or www.julesborel.com/ for the part. A watch repair shop would also probably be able to help.

Ziggyzumba also speaks highly of the Miyota 21j movement. You could use it as a dependable replacement for an asian 21j, for example, in another rep watch.

That screw at the base of the balance wheel bridge is showing up BLUE on my computer. LOL

Since it's guaranteed 100% authentic, and assuming you were going to spend that (ungodly) amount of money on a watch, I guess a trip to the Rolex Service Center would be the next order of business to confirm that , yes indeed, your watch was 100% authentic. And since you just spent $23,000, what's another grand getting to the RSC and back? Maybe someone else would like to ask Philwatch if this watch has been authenticated by an RSC. I don't want to be blackballed! These guys get so touchy.

Yes, Michael Young is the owner, I believe, and some people have used him here w/ good results, XRT, RBJ69, Saabin on the old RWG1. Custom parts, some of which have a custom price, but sometimes price is no object, if you want it bad enough!

Alpha hands were popular in the 40's and 50's, like on an early 6234, but I've never seen the combination alpha minute and mercedes hour anywhere. Skeet and Urul, here I come

I just figured the 1937 date was a typo, and should have been 1957. These people don't proofread their stuff for [censored]. I agree with the minute hand being bogus and I have my doubts about the hour hand, but I've learned to quit calling these guys down on their 100% genuine bs, cause all they do is ban me from bidding on their stuff. I've been banned at Astorlive because I questioned the date mag on a 1675 GMT. They wouldn't even address the question and just said 100% genuine. I think it was an aftermarket crystal, but they could have just said it was a bad picture..., no, 100% genuine on a 40 year old watch! I guess that's how they keep their 100% approval rating- ban the intelligentsia, no WIS allowed.

I thought I saw an insert and bezel from a guy in Desoto, TX for $225us today on the bay- it looked authentic to me. Type in Rolex bezel and do a search! But really you only need the insert, I would think. Unfortunately, finding a gen is tough- you have to suck up to someone who has access to genuine parts, or keep watching ebay. You could try Raymond Lee Jewelers for an aftermarket insert. I like the one that I got for my 16610- it's not bad for a little over $20 w/ s&h. I bought the one for a 5513, but I think the ring around the pearl was a tad large. The original 5513 inserts had an acrylic pearl, no metal ring and the later replacements have a very thin ring around the pearl, thinner than the 16610 pearl ring. And the pearl is smaller, also.

Yeh, I couldn't figure out what a "Swiss watch chip" was either, but obviously, English wasn't the sellers first language, because alot of his stuff didn't make any sense. BTW, NRG, I think that sub you posted is a real one. The only drawback would be that Singapore Watch Co. hasn't sold anything on ebay.

Cool watch! Those 16800's are becoming vintage at this point, being 25 years old plus or minus. And I'm growing to appreciate those TW cases, esp. since they'll take a gen dial. Great job.

Isn't that the DW mystery movement? The V23 copy.

I bought that tool set 1-1/2 years ago and paid $70 for it and still think it's a great deal at that price, so it's only better at $49.95. Bear in mind though, you'll still want to get a decent set of screwdrivers and a Rolex caseback opener if you work on Rolexes. And yes, I didn't know what all of the tools were for at first, but I have since then learned!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...p;rd=1&rd=1 This guy is so stupid, that he's posted a picture of an ETA movement w/ Rolex on the rotor and thinks it's real! His first pic appears to be a Rolex stock pic, the second is of a TT GMT II and who needs a booklet to go with their fake watch? But this guy says he's not trying to rip anyone off! And God Bless! Also, it looks like he might have some shills running up the price.

Choosing between Paul's sub and TTK's sub is mainly a matter of asking yourself which movement do you want. ETA or asian 21j? TTK's asian 21j is regulated and the one that I have is spot on. But I don't know what I'll do in a year or two or three when it needs servicing. With the ETA, you can always get it serviced. FWIW, I think that TWG and TTK have the same sub w/ asian 21j and Paul, TWG, and EL have the same sub w/ the ETA. At least the cases on TWG's, TTK's and Paul's are the same and the other details of the watches look the same.

This looks pretty cool! These look to be drop in replacements for the ETA's, using some of their nomenclature even. I guess that article was translated from French, maybe, pretty rough and difficult to understand some of the phrases.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Very-rare-SS-Rolex-Sub...tem220044560803 Here's an old crown- $109

I just had the crown and tube on my gen 1680 (1978) replaced. It had the original old style triplock crown and tube where the tube did not have the outside o-ring. The old crown has the three dots on it. The new crowns (24-7030) are not compatible with the old tube (my watchmaker tried to screw a new crown on, but it didn't work) so I got the new 24-7030 update with the crown and tube. Now I have the outside o-ring on my gen 1680. Collectors like these old crowns, because then they don't have to replace the case tube and can say their watch is still "original". Mark Greenberg had one of these old crowns for sale last week on ebay, like for $50. I have the old crown and tube and will check the crown tonite to see if it has the foil over it.

Now that I look at the Gevril dial, I'll agree w/ the 2824/DD set up. Zodiac, and Daniel Jean Richard also use that set-up. How this guy made a Daytona is beyond me, unless he put in a 7750/7753. Otherwise, you'd have some screwed up subdials. And why not just buy a Daytona rep w/ the 7750?

I have a Zodiac Chronograph w/ the 2824-2 and the Dubois Depraz module. The running seconds is at three, and the 30 minute counter is at 9, so I'd be surprised if the Gevril has the 2824/DD combo, and I really wouldn't expect it to fit the Daytona dial. My Zodiac has a very thick case, also. Interesting to note that our Franken Tona is up over 5K this morning already, and the reserve is not met yet!

The Gevril uses a Swiss 7750 movt (or is it a 7753?). They used to be around for $800-850, maybe less on ebay. Originally sold for around $1500. The only thing that guy has going is the swiss movt. On the original auction, it ended early because "the item was no longer available", meaning...??

From his original auction, it looks like the movement pics for the most part have been deleted- kinda like covering your tracks. Hard to tell if this is a different watch, or what's up. Dial pics look the same

Well, I can definitely see a datewheel overlay in this project, unless the TWG overlay matches up w/ the gen dial date window. Good Luck.

I've bought from wholesale outlet990, and I'd say his inserts are so-so. That Rolex forum link you posted looked interesting and if you could find gen inserts in the $50-65 range there, I'd go for it. I've also bought aftermarket inserts from Lee Raymond Jewelers on ebay and I think they're a little better than wholesaleoutlet990, IMO.

Interesting, just looked at pics of Paul's Wo-Mart perfect sub over at TRC under the Dealer Review section. Same case w/ the same SN and 16610T on the other side of the case. Only difference is the ETA movement, from what I can see.

Wrapped in blue rep plastic! I didin't know Rolex had started doing that. Crown guards, bezel insert, date mag all suck and a poor picture to boot. And only 4 ebay transactions, a veritable noob w/ nothing to loose.