sssurfer

Thank you for sharing your experience. Valuable info! Modifying a dial could prove of even more general interest than darkening Ti, IMHO. Be warned about tossing a whole watch in a warm/hot bath: water resistance is not assured at high temperatures, as metal (case parts) expands much more than rubber (o-rings & gaskets). I believed that percarbonate was the active ingredient in that cleaner, as 'per-' compounds (perborate, percarbonate...) develop oxygen so to perform oxidation.

Ditto. Btw: 91%

Uhmm.... maybe I added to the general confusion here. Apologies: I myself got quite confused -- and still I am. Just some words as an explanation: at first I only saw the watch dial, on TTK's post. Not being able to look at the caseback, I considered it a 228 (with flawed inscriptions) because of the blue dial and subdial and the SS case. Then I saw the caseback, and it was consistent with the 089. So I considered it a mix 089/228, but more likely a 089 with a different (unaccurately repped) dial color and a different case material. Then I found a line on Paneristi's site that said that F series (of 089) added a bracelet (like this watch actually has) and a new dial. So my confusion was now complete -- and still it is. I have been unable in finding any further info so far.

You may have the green one (which is a beauty anyway) -- but the red one is MINE!

It's a steal! Congrats! In the meanwhile, I got a Bob sharkskin @ 14.99 s/h included The 2nd watch is clearly from Dali's.

Some added info on a similar rep I saw (unsure if it was the same model by TTK, though): Movement: 7750 -- like gen Caseback: unconsistent with 228, as it said: ocean chronometer OP6554 (which is from PAM 088 and 089) F00xx/2200 (more consistent with 089 than 228) Reconsidering the whole thing on those new info, this watch is closer to a 089 than a 228. Sort of a 089 in SS and with blue dial and subdial. A 089/228 bastard. But... on Paneristi's site they say: "The F (2003) series added a further bracelet model with a new dial" ...still, the titanium issue is not trivial... Uhm.... more search needed...

Thanks Warren. Table is already there, ready for you -- and for anyone who wants it. Btw, please remember to give me that info that you know...

Am I the only PAM nuts here? It is a PAM 228, a stunning piece and very well repped (with exception for the writings: 'FIRENZE' missing and 'Automatic' added). Congrats, TTK! Do you plan to sell it/them? (btw, I found it in my PAM table v2.1, posted here).

Thanks for the advice, Mahler! I more recently found some magic markers (Promarker by Letraset) that seem well suited for the need. They come in tons of nuances - even a bright yelllow declared as 'gold'. Surely your solution is better - even if a little less easy - and I'll come to it if the outcome by the markers should not result to my appointment. (Now making a bookmark on this post). Mmmm... don't think so.

You are welcome, glad if this will turn out useful, let us know.

:sss: (stands for sssurfer )

I'll welcome you as soon as you'll remember what PAM models you own...

I seem to remember that a member found screws that fitted not from a watchsmith, but from an optician / eyeglass shop.

I wonder how one can have sex with two women at the same time whichever they are. Either you need two penises, or a very long penis (in which case the nearest of the two women is also going to get seriously hurt).

@ ravishingrick: ugh, actually jimmyzfu's was the only one I did not try on my own. I was speaking on what I heard from other members' experiences. On what you say, now I wonder whether they were including jimmy's crystals in those experiences. On the other hand, the crystal I got from exclusive_discount_uk along with their case is a gorgeous one, thick, and AR coated. Even my watchsmith (who is fitting the new sapphire cyclops on it to reassemble my 028A) complimented about it. I have not it in my hand right now (I should have it again tomorrow), but I am quite positive it was 35.5 mm. @ kritz: stay away from x-jewelry! Even better, do a search here and look. I am going to file a dispute on them, or to leave a negative feedback at least, as soon as I'll be done with the mail exchanging with them about the issue. From them I got a class crystal (tested with 4 different tests, including thermal conductivity and electrical conductivity with proper tools), thin, and even low-quality as a glass (lots of whitish inclusions). Barely usable even as a glass crystal. And yes, it was advertised as sapphire. Btw: even the advertised gasket was missing.

Wow, please share where you found it as this is valuable info to many members (me included )! So far I know exclusive_discount_uk , x-jewelry, and jimmyzfu. All from eBay. exclusive_discount_uk (i.e. Homer): great quality at great price. But you have to buy the whole case along with the crystal. x-jewelry: 10 USD + 12 USD s/h. ---> Got glass, not sapphire. jimmyzfu: great quality at good price.

snow, I am a complete ignorant in Ro|ex, but this is one of the most beautiful watches I ever saw. It is making me even consider to enter into the Ro|ex world. Congratulations really!

That makes me remember of a certain smoking gun finding...

I also seem to remember that the gasket on which the crystal sits, and that seals the crystal, is made of teflon -- at least this is what my watchsmith told me.

1 FOR ME!!!

Yes, you are right. Actually, 'maiale' is just the Italian word for 'pig'. Italian assaulter on WWII rode torpedoes resembling like hot-dogs without bread (i.e. wurstels), but given the fascist rejection of any anglophone words they were simply called 'maiali' (plural for 'maiale').

I already told of my transactions with Davidsen, so here I just agree YES! HE IS A FRIEND AND AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY!

Wow, this is almost a chat session!