Don't get me wrong, if I can learn, the better for me. But I bought an sold alot of bezels from the 60's to the service ones on different fora. I bought bezels from this guy long before ST bezels even exist and sold them on VRF to different wel known people! I personally had no luck with different aftermarket bezels (Phong, Nathalie, Yuki, Clark or whatever) fitting on a genuine retaining ring. A few years ago I even tried to make some new gen spec. bezels on the CNC, the guy said it was almost impossible to do so no luck. This is one of my ads on the VRF, old style bezel: http://www.network54.com/Forum/207673/thread/1434996796/Rare+Super+Fat+font+insert+%2B+Complete+60s+bezel+assembly+%2B+MK1+Fat+font+long+5+insert I will try to find the ad with the bezel in question.