Indeed definitely not like the gen ...
But for me an improvement over the mineral crystal ( this is not the recent Ultimate 212 but an older version .... )
I have a 212 crystal from wholesaleoutlet990 installed on my Pam ....
This is the result ( done by FineDD )
It wasn't an easy fit according to Uwe, some adjustments had to be made with the crystal gasket
I can't say that my 177L is more loud then for instance my serviced 'swiss' DSN 112 ....
It is noticeable but that's about it, and I do like the ticking sound though
The Gen :
http://www.paneraisource.com/watch_details/Historic_2.html
But who cares the 'officine panerai' is the wrong way around , it's still a great rep ...