mjmurphy926

Cheaper V1/V3 Skylands for example come with real screws and the bezel can be removed like the gen Breitling one.

This is NOT true for my v3 Skyland. The screws spin freely. Mine is SS, not Black Steel if that makes a difference.

The Noob dial is definitely more accurate than the WM9 v1 dial. However, I loved the "Flat S". Personally, I would keep the WM9 dial just because of that. v1 has very decent dial, imho.

Yeah...I like the flat S too. Decisions, decisions...

Thanks all for the input!!

I just compared the WM9 to my gen GMT and the color is identical: Greyish white. I'm not sure if this varies though... but my gen print is definitely greyish.

This is what I'm looking for B-T...Thanks.

So, I have a wm9 v1 that I bought from an RWG member that is supposed to be (and I believe it is) a PT 1:1 sub. It has the flat S, bad lume dial. I also have a noob dial that I took off my old swiss movement noob sub. The lume is only slightly better on this dial (it still sucks), but the print is much whiter than the print on the wm9 dial.

The case on this particular watch was pretty bad when I got it. The top CG, for whatever reason, was much thicker than the bottom CG. I've done a lot of work on these including removing material from the outside of the top CG and re-polishing the side of the case. I also worked a lot on the rehaut which had a lot of marks that I was able to remove. The case looks pretty damn now and I want to send it to The Zigmeister for relume, but I need to know which dial is more accurate.

Is it your contention B-T that the v1 (flat S) wm9 dial has the more accurate dial font color?

I'd hate to spend the bucks to have Zig relume the noob dial only to find out the original dial was more accurate. It's really hard to tell from pictures, and I'd love to take both dials to an AD and compare, but since that's out of the question, I'm counting on the awesome membership here to help.

Thanks,

Mike

Yes, my 1680 and three 16800 dials are all a nice white white- no grey. 16610 is the same- actually the same dial is used for the 16800 and the 16610- dial feet are in the same place, date window, etc. Bezel assembly and insert are also the same for 16800 and 16610. Rolex quit using tritium in around 1999 and switched to luminova in 2000 for about one year- denoted by Swiss at the bottom of the dial. Since then they've used super luminove, denoted by 'Swiss Made' on the dial.

Thanks alli...Great info!!

Damn...This is gonna be hard to resist...Thanks a lot Lani!

White

Thanks once again alli...I assume you mean bright white rather than grayish white?

"China, Taiwan, or my butthole are dangerous places to navigate..."

-Phoband (on the difficulty of buying reps at watchmarkets in Asia)

HA...I was going to post this too. This is the first thing I thought of when I read this thread topic...Priceless!!

I think the whole Titanic line is morbid.

I completely agree.

Kind of like a pair of shoes made from the leather limo seat JFK was sitting on when he was assassinated. Or a piece of jewelry made from either the Challenger or Columbia Space Shuttle wreckage.

My SSD and my noob subs (swiss and 21J movements) have all had bright white dial text, but the wm9 (PT's 1:1) that I have has much grayer white text.

Which is closer to gen?

Thanks,

Mike

@spider - The hand set tool is just a rod with a hole in the center used to install hands by pushing them gently into place.

@alli - Thanks for the info.

@BK - PM sent.

Thanks all.

I was swapping the dial and date wheel on my wm9 v1 sub with a noob dial and date wheel and while installing the second hand, my hand set tool (drilled out tooth pick ) slipped and bent the second hand

Does anybody know where I might find a modern sub second hand for a swiss ETA 2836-2?

Thanks,

Mike

Hmmm, I certainly can understand frustration with a party you contracted with to create a product if they don't deliver as expected, but I CAN'T understand a personal attack on a craftsman who is free to decide what services he wishes to offer or not to offer...

Actually it's because a longer hand is more accurate for reading elapsed time. 5 seconds on a subdial measures about 2 or 3mm, but on the outside of the dial the same amount of time cover almost a full cm. The longer the hand the easier it is to measure the interval. More crucial when timing an event than for general timekeeping.

Agreed...And wasn't the Rolex Daytona named after and created for the 24 hour race? Imagine trying to read the sub @6 dial when timing laps or a driving stint in the cockpit at 200mhp bouncing down a straightaway.

Beauty!!

Great post Zig. We can never be reminded enough.

Haha!! Color me clueless.

Just ask Ned Nederlander!!

If The Zigmeister is "infamous", as you say, then one would have to wonder why you're interested in getting in touch with him. And those of us who consider him a top notch member of the community probably aren't going to be of much help to you.

PS, Maybe this is a language barrier??

I beg to differ chief...

I was all set to vote, but the threat of the "prize" for picking the winning avi is not worth the risk!!

Congratulations!!!

I haven't seen a rep 113 dial with the different finish subdial yet...nice!!

Where did that come from?

Nice TT...Thanks.

...they really dropped the ball this year. Sure some of the designs are pretty enough, but pretty common looking too.

Honestly, the first thing that entered my mind when I saw these pics was "Looks like Seiko".

The video of the crash is on youtube, but I can't watch it.

SAN JOSE, Costa Rica (AP)