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Not really. Maybe the ones that are willing to take gen parts and are not produced anymore... like the old Noobfactory Explorer II. The old, out of production Speedy BA used to be quite a desirable rep after it went out of production but I guess the new reps have changed that. They're so good that I doubt anyone would be that crazy about such an inaccurate watch anymore. Maybe there are some PAMs though. I have no idea about them.

Yeah I hear that Aztek mentioned a lot, but I don't see that. It's not aesthetically pleasing but doesn't even compare to cars like Fiat Multipla. If this is not an ugly car then I don't know what is. Late 70's Ford Mustang deserves mention too. What a horrible way to tarnish the legendary Mustang image.

AMC Gremlin must be among the ugliest too. It's an experiment gone terribly wrong.

@Pugs: That's not an ugly car at all. It's actually very cool. THIS is an ugly car.

Funny cars split to another topic. Contribute here.

Funny about that Ploprof and how it has become such a desirable watch. 10 years ago everyone would have considered it just awful. Have you seen the prices they're asking for those vintage Ploprofs now? I like that Zenith.

Holy crap! Are you sure that wasn't a 70'S replica scam site?

Hey Robbie, get rid of that Mini and buy this one. I'm not sure what this is though. Maybe a new version of Goggomobil?

Noooooo.... how is that possible? Speaking of butt ugly cars... yes, this is Aston Martin. And no, it's not a hearse. This would be a cool car. At least you could say everyone that "I drive a Mercedes".

@TJ: That's Marcos Mantis. A car for people with style.

<thread splitted from RobbieG's topic) Any car suggestions to Ken? He's looking for a new one and drives this at the moment. He's considering this one but it's probably a bit too flashy. This is a great car if you're single. Just imagine the potential increase in your social life you you grow a mullet & moustache and get this one.

Very cool scan. I would say that those watches cost probably just as much as these days if you consider the change in value of money. Actually Daytonas were relatively much more expensive back then. ($4.750). Of course those watches getting rare (like Daytona and red Sub) wasn't predictable. But if you just compare them to their brand new counterparts the prices weren't that low (in relation).

Nothing wrong with the placement. Check here and compare it. All looks exactly similar. Placement of OYSTER PERPETUAL DATE (related to ROLEX), etc. If the '12 marker is damaged it explains it. It looks much better in that new photo. The dial is definitely genuine, imho.

The dial print looks way too good to be fake... I would say that this dial is genuine. But the 12'o'clock marker looks wrong. Or then it's the picture. Weird.

You know what's funny... when I saw the subject title I thought it said "I was thinking of getting this Penis." I was like What the F...

Cool photo Freddy. I'm wearing this old favorite of mine.

No it didn't have any AR coating. The trick to avoid reflection is in the correct lightbox studio settings. TAG Link (without AR and mirror-like bezel) must be one of the toughest watches to photograph.

I think people can be passionate about anything expensive and flashy, and still not be a snob. The world isn't black and white and people aren't stereotypical. A lot of people decide to live within the narrow role that they have taken... whether it's a businessman, bodybuilder, artist, musician, whatever... especially when people are young they like to categorize people based on how they look and what they do... I was guilty of that too. But why limit our options? I've met a lot of standard working class guys who are 10 times more intelligent than many people who have educated themselves and pursued with their careers. It's simply not important for all people. I have often wondered about my watch obsession too, because I don't care about cars and brand clothes at all. I think I love watches because they're fascinating mechanical things and luxury brands have some sort of mystique around them. It's not necessarily the price, as an aesthete I love their superior design and mechanics. And of course it comes from my father's side... he has his Rolex collection. He made me a watch fanatic. And in the end, not everything in this world has to make any sense... all people have their weird passions, we just happen to love watches.

Robbie made an interesting point about money, career, etc. and how he became obsessive with it. I think many people in this world are just "takers". They're pretending to be your friend if they can use you or can squeeze something out of you. When I was a competitive powerlifter there were always lots of people around who tried to get information from the best lifters. I wasn't one of the tops though. They talked crap behind their backs but were best friends in front of them, mainly because wanted to know what kind of drugs the top guys were taking or what their magic training formula was. You can see this behavior everywhere. Even here. People approach you and pretend to be your friends, but in reality they only want to know where you got the best Sub. Anyway... these people never realized that you can't overcome hard work and dedication (and in my sport, genetics). No amount of tricks and drugs will get you on top (if you don't have what it takes). I never had what it takes and I wasn't successful. But I almost ruined my life and health with some extremities that I did when I was young and stupid. But thinking it backwards now... I think I chose that sport and "extreme ways" to become huge because strength and muscles were at least something that money can't buy... I felt that it was more "genuine". But looking back at it now, I believe it was some sort of insecurity as well... not much different as flashing your watches, cars, money and career. Fake muscles and fake feeling of superiority. Pull the syringe out of your arse cheeks and you're among with the mortals again. Pursue with your career, or train with hardcore fashion if you like it (I still do) but don't lose your perspective. There's nothing in this world that I despise more than cocky people who think that when they're rich, famous (or big) it makes them better than others. I believe in business world (when lots of money is involved) this kind of backstabbing, greedy atmosphere and "spirit" is even more apparent. I can honestly say that I never gave a shit about money... maybe it was easier for me to think that way because I come from a wealthy (not rich) family. I always had nice toys and despite coming from Northern Europe my sandbox wasn't frozen. Somehow I always feel sorry about people who get obsessive about money and want to "become rich and popular" just for the sake of it... what a complete waste of good life! Sorry all my good friends in the US, but it's so very "American". Success in life has NOTHING to do with these things. I think the best thing that can happen to a person is to realize that nobody really gives a poop about you (except the people that mean something... and that's your family and real friends). What the rest of the world thinks about you is completely meaningless. Just think it this way... if you died tomorrow, do you think the world would stop turning? Not bloody likely, you and your career are not that important. We all have some people who really care, and those are the only things in this world that matter. Cars, money and that stuff are completely meaningless in the "big picture". And in the long run we're all dead anyway. (Watches are important though).

I'm very sad to hear about all those health issues. Get well soon!

So many great watches! I wasn't aware that you have the two-tone Aquaracer. I love the Aquaracer but I never really "connected" with the gold version. But it looks quite good in your photos. I also had two-tone Navitimer. Occasionally I get the "gold rush" and buy these but then I can never force myself to wear them. Gold is just a bit too much. But in principle I really love gold watches... maybe in 15 years when I'm a bit older... Thanks for sharing mate.

Some very unique shots guys. @Freddy: Thanks man. Your pictures are art. @Lani: Your SMP Chrono (with double AR) wristshot is my favorite. @Robbie: Great to see you back mate! I saw the other thread... all the best man. I hope you get well as soon as possible. @Everyone: keep 'em coming!

Good stuff guys. Here's 2 different wrist shots, showing my gen GMT. First one from the front. Not very inspiring. The second one from the angled view. Shows the watch profile, rehaut, crystal height and that (supposedly) "whiter" Rolex 904 steel nicely. To be honest with you guys, it's a much of noise for nothing. I have never noticed much difference. Anyway... I like this kind of wrist shots.

That is a classic shot Ubi. Daytona is tough because the bezel is so reflective. That is almost noiseless.

Great stuff guys. Keep 'em coming! @ammandel: Exactly my point. The blue rep SFSO, for example, is a tricky to capture well (without motion) because the strong AR makes the dial look sometimes very blue, sometimes very "violet blue", sometimes more cyan and sometimes simply dark/grey. Gen SFSO dial is very similar in that sense, but it reflects colors a bit differently. That's why studio shots don't always tell the full story. I also love the SFSO bracelet which is amazingly cool (despite being very simple in design). Bracelet is very important to present in the photo properly. It's quite easy in the lightbox where you can control the exposure but not necessarily in natural lighting.