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  7. Invicta "Submariner" Buying Review - Mod 9937

    in The Rolex Area

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    Good write up.

     

    INVICTA 9937 - is it worth it?

    So you might be wondering what's the difference between this model 9937 and the Invicta 8926. PLENTY! These two similarly styled Pro-diver watches look almost the same - so you might be asking yourself why spend an additional $200 for something that looks like its $100.00 fraternal twin??? Here's why you should own the 9937!

    Automatic movements:

    The 9937 has a Swiss ETA 2824-2 movement in it's stainless case. This Swiss movement is the baseline for automatic watch quality and reliability. This same movement is used in Oceanaut, TAG, Breitling, Omega and a host of swiss watch names with prices into four figures!

    The 8926 uses a Japanese Citizen Miyota 8215 movement. Absolutely nothing wrong with this mechanism. A great time keeper. Miyota movements power many great name automatic watches - but it is not Swiss and is significantly less costly to produce!

    Crystal:

    9937 utilizes a sapphire crystal for the watch face and display back. Sapphire is most scratch resistant - the most desirable watch face material - can only be imprinted by a diamond. The date magnifier (or as Rolex calls it the "cyclops") is much more prominent on the 9937. Not only is the magnifier larger in area and more prominent than its 8926 counterpart - the date magnification seems to be 1.5X larger on the 9937.

    8926 finds a mineral glass watch face and display back. Mineral glass is not as scratch resistant as sapphire - but is more chip and shatter resistant. Mineral glass is significantly cheaper to produce for the manufacturer.

    Stainless Steel Bracelet:

    The 9937 uses a heavier - higher quality stainless bracelet than its 8926 counterpart. Both bracelets are attractive - double lock foldover clasp - the Swiss Diver bracelet is easily worth the extra money.

    Swiss movement vs Asian made:

    I'm not a watch snob. Invicta Pro-divers - whether Asian made 8926 or Swiss movement 9937 are lookalikes to the Rolex Submariner. Invicta built its' modern reputation on the 8926 - a good solid diver - the Swiss made 9937 was an answer to a demand for a higher quality timepiece from Invicta 8926 owners! I own both models and enjoy the look of both in different situations.

    Both are very attractive - are easily affordable and reliable automatic dive watches that will last many years. The 8926 and 9937 are 660ft water resistant, both have screw down crowns - large attractive 316L surgical brushed stainless steel cases 43mm in diameter -unidirectional scalloped bezels - good LUME coming off the dial and hands, date at the 3 o'clock position - and both are quality built.

    CONCLUSION:

    The 8926 is (IMHO) the greatest watch value for around $100 dollars. It rivals SEIKO in style and quality and is the price leader when you're looking for a quality dive watch.

    The 9937 offers a higher standard of material and construction - with quality components that reassure you every day you wear it. For many of us - a Swiss ETA 2824-2 movement, sapphire crystal diver for under $300 is magic to the pocketbook and the watch collectors soul.

    When you feel the need for a Swiss automatic diver on your wrist - with great looks and quality all around -the Invicta 9937 deserves a special place in your watch collection.

    Forgive the hyperbole - it was written two years ago when I was enthralled with the ETA 2824-2 movement - be it Asian assembled or Swiss Made ...

    Since this has been written - Invicta has switched to another Swiss movement - also assembled in Asia - the 26 j SW200. Personal taste and better experience will guide you through the complexities of this hobby.

    Here are some of the most encountered automatic movements:

    Citizen-Miyota 8215 21j date complication. Japanese movement - found in Invicta Pro- divers - solid auto movement

    ETA 2824-2 Swiss movement from the SWATCH Group... 25 j the Swiss auto standard. Now being rationed and harder to find outside of Swatch Group brands of watches. Invicta no longer can obtain this movement in quantity. Found in two varities:
    1. Swiss Made on the watch dial indicates Swiss parts and Swiss Assembly
    2. Swiss Mov't or Swiss Movement on the dial - indocates Swiss parts assembled elsewhere - as is the watch overall

    SW200 - another Swiss wmovement 26 j available to the industry in quantity - new to the market - slow QC start but now accepted as a 2824 replacement

    The 25 j prodiver from Invicta is no longer manufactured - unless old stock. Despite what it says in the ads - your 25 j prodiver is probably as 26 j SW200. I think it's worth the money - I own both types...

  9. Invicta "Submariner" Buying Review - Mod 9937

    in The Rolex Area

    Posted

    Vegas, specs:

    Brand Invicta Style 9937OB Series  Pro Diver Style  Casual Size  Men's Gender  Men Case  Stainless steel Dial Color Primary  Black Clasp Type  Deployment Band Material  Stainless Steel Band Type  Bracelet Case Material  Stainless Steel Caliber  SW200 Band Width (mm.)  20 Band Length (in.)  9.0 Bezel Function  Black unidirectional coin edge bezel Luminous  Hands and hour markers Water Resistance  200M Movement  Swiss automatic, 25 jewels Crystal  Flame-Fusion crystal with magnifier Case Diameter (mm.)  40 Case Thickness (mm.)  13 Calendar  Date display at 3:00 Case Back  See thru skeleton Material  Stainless steel

  12. Watch care for automatic movements?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    To echo my friend panerai, I really do not bother much about winders these days. Also there are two schools of thought I have seen debated. One keep them on winders oils moving yada yada the other no, no winder wears the movement out. I can not say which one is right with certainty. But some of the finicky Asian ones we get best left alone for sure, the example being the a7750 w/ the seconds @ 6.

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  13. List of Legitimite Sites

    in General Discussion

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    That is a tall order Patrick best you read around a bit as it takes awhile to understand those differences. But I will tell that all dealers carry same watches as there are a bunch of factories that supply them all. Of course there are lower and higher quality watches on all there sites priced accordingly (we hope!). So hand around learn the ropes and you will know how to buy.

  19. olivierwatches.com

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    Well jpz they are sold out again, I put myself on list and waited for this so not going anywhere just yet. By the way came w/ three straps Nato,rubber, leather all nice. Of course on the shelf with all my other gens in the brand new never worn section................

  21. Any Fellow Architects Out There?

    in General Discussion

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    "One problem that I see, interest rates here have been kept artificially low to stimulate the economy, but once they start to go up, construction will probably stall out completely." agreed but I do not see the Fed taking away the punch bowl anytime soon (if they spike they will suppress), the spice must flow...........

     

    PS I see long term dire consequences to this but it is what it is.

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