picked up this gen grand Carrera after trying the quartz rep for a while-really impressed with both,thought i'd post a side by side photo to compare,apart from sunken date wheel rep is hard to fault I think.might post more pics if anyones interested and will probably sell the rep.if anyone wants the rep I can post on ebay maybe- don't have any feedback on here yet,suppose I may upgrade as ive a couple more reps to get rid of with this new arrival!!